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[at-l] 1. Updated Birthday List (The Weathercarrot)




well since everyone else seems to be doing it,   Wraith's bday is 23 NOV

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>    1. Updated Birthday List (The Weathercarrot)
>    2. birthdays (Mark Hudson)
>    3. Re: Updated Birthday List (Nybob914@aol.com)
>    4. RE: Felix? (Shane)
>    5. RE: Are hostels/motels really a necessity? (Shane)
>    6. Re: Are hostels/motels really a necessity?  (Marielle & Paul)
>    7. Nice AT/volunteer story (Snodrog5@aol.com)
>    8. Re: Trip Report: 7 peaks from the New England Fify Finest
>       list	- Colum... (Snodrog5@aol.com)
>    9. Re: Felix? (Snodrog5@aol.com)
>   10. Re: Felix? (Felix)
>   11. Are hostels/motels really a necessity? (janl2@mindspring.com)
>   12. Re: Are hostels/motels really a necessity? (Kelly Whitman)
>   13. New Birthday List w/ WC and JB (ShaunaShatto@aol.com)
>   14. Re: Felix? (Snodrog5@aol.com)
>   15. Birthday List - Now including Rami (ShaunaShatto@aol.com)
>   16. Re: Birthday List - Now including Rami (Charles Copeland)
>   17. Odd Bits--- (Leslie Booher)
>   18. Re: Are hostels/motels really a necessity?  (Marielle & Paul)
>   19. Re: Felix? (Leslie Booher)
>   20. Re: Felix? (Gadog430)
>   21. Did you say "Thank You"? (Snodrog5@aol.com)
>   22. OT.... but way cool! (ShaunaShatto@aol.com)
>   23. OT: Boy Missing in N.H. Woods - News Story (ShaunaShatto@aol.com)
>   24. Papa Bear's Manhatten/Staten Island High Points trip (Sloetoe)
>
>
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:02:58 -0400
>From: "The Weathercarrot" <weathercarrot@hotmail.com>
>Subject: [at-l] Updated Birthday List
>To: at-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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>
>i wasn't going to do this, but since i just met someone else with my
>birthday for the first time ever (at the gathering this weekend), i might 
>as
>well.
>
>weathercarrot - Feb 29
>
>wc
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:35:01 -0400
>From: Mark Hudson <hudsom@us.ibm.com>
>Subject: [at-l] birthdays
>To: at-l@backcountry.net
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><<i wasn't going to do this, but since i just met someone else with my
>birthday for the first time ever (at the gathering this weekend), i might
>as
>well.
>
>weathercarrot - Feb 29
>
>wc>>
>
>Geez, that makes you, what,  9 years old?!?!?!?
>
>Maybe that's why they keep saying "Grow up!" <vbg>
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:58:23 EDT
>From: Nybob914@aol.com
>Subject: Re: [at-l] Updated Birthday List
>To: AT-L@MAILMAN.BACKCOUNTRY.NET
>Message-ID: <168.2521cdab.2cc0444f@aol.com>
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>In a message dated 10/16/03 1:04:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>weathercarrot@hotmail.com writes:
>
>
> > i wasn't going to do this, but since i just met someone else with my
> > birthday for the first time ever (at the gathering this weekend), i 
>might as
> >
> > well.
> >
> > weathercarrot - Feb 29
>
>Might just as well as mine too....I didn't get to the gathering for the
>second time...but wish I had...
>
>JB-July 5
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>Message: 4
>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:42:54 -0500
>From: "Shane" <shane@theplacewithnoname.com>
>Subject: RE: [at-l] Felix?
>To: <at-l@backcountry.net>
>Message-ID:
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> > I got the latest issue of the ATN in the mail last night.
> > Again I was disappointed not to find the Ministry of Funny
> > Walks.  :  (
>
>This is an outrage!  Who is responsible?
>
>Shane
>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:41:46 -0500
>From: "Shane" <shane@theplacewithnoname.com>
>Subject: RE: [at-l] Are hostels/motels really a necessity?
>To: <at-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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> > It looks like I just might be able to scrape the funds
> > together for a (budget) 2004 thruhike.
>
>Don't say might.  Just do it.
>
> > has anyone completed a thruhike without staying in ANY
> > hostels or motels along the way, purely living on the trail?
>
> > Is that desirable or even possible, and what are the pros
> > and cons?  I lived in my car for 2 years (to finish
> > college).
>
> > I won't be staying in the shelters along the trail, either,
> > just my hammock.
>
>You won't have any trouble.  I haven't done the AT, but from experience
>wandering for several years, I can tell you that staying in a hostel/motel
>isn't at all necessary for any reason, really.
>
>Being sick can suck, but you'll live through it.  If you don't then you're
>in a good place to die.  I'd rather die in the woods than in a flop 
>house...
>
>There are some cons...
>
>It's nice to have a REAL hot shower every now and then.  It's nice to have
>some place and some time to clean, inspect, and sort your gear.  It's
>nice... But that's all those are.  Nice.
>
>There are some pros, including the cost savings.  Once you get used to 
>being
>on the trail, staying in a hostel/motel actually becomes unattractive.
>
>Shane
>
>
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>Message: 6
>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:29:20 -0300
>From: "Marielle & Paul" <hikers99@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [at-l] Are hostels/motels really a necessity?
>To: <at-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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>In 1999 we stayed at a few hostels and motels.
>
>Hostels were very inexpensive or asked for donation or were free.  We felt 
>that staying at some of the hostels was part of the trail experience. (What 
>would a thru hike be without a stop at Kincora or the Church of the 
>Mountain for example.
>
>  Motels aren't a necessity but it sure can be nice to have a room when 
>taking a  zero mile day.  In 1999 it got over 100 degrees in PA and many 
>were looking for airconditioned rooms, or at least an airconditioned 
>restaurant or tavern.
>
>In 1999 you could get motel rooms in GA and NC for $29, including HBO ( for 
>some reason that seemed important at the time). I recall rooms were around 
>$37  in TN and  $55 in parts of PA.
>
>If you want to have a room, there are ways of saving money.
>I recall that thru hikers often shared a room, and it wasnt uncommon to 
>have 4 thru hikers sharing a room with 2 double beds.  In some cases, they 
>would even let other hikers sleep on the floor.  I know that 8 people 
>shared a $50 room at the Best Western in Troutville and they all partook in 
>the large free breakfast  in the morning.
>
>Some of the advantages of having a motel room:
>
>Away from the elements
>Shower
>Allows to vegetate
>A safe place to keep your stuff while you do town stuff like groceries,  
>laundry,  AYCE
>Soft bed
>Get help from staff, such as ride to Post Office and back to trail etc.
>Allows you to sort and organize your stuff and supplies in private.
>
>We fondly remember our time on the trail. That includes the walking, the 
>views, the wilderness, the hikers, the trail angels, the town people, the 
>hostels, the restaurants and the motels, etc etc
>
>MA  &  PA 99
>
>http://www.hikers99.homestead.com/index.html
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>Message: 7
>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:40:44 EDT
>From: Snodrog5@aol.com
>Subject: [at-l] Nice AT/volunteer story
>To: at-l@backcountry.net
>Message-ID: <152.257248e2.2cc0867c@aol.com>
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> >From Gazette.net
>Volunteers oversee major trail
>by Angela Pfeiffer
>Staff Writer
>
>  "The sound of chainsaws whirring atop South Mountain on recent weekend
>mornings means the Appalachian National Scenic Trail is being made safe for 
>hikers.
>  Powered by a group of volunteers known as the South Mountaineers, the
>chainsaws are hacking through damage wreaked by Hurricane Isabel.
>  Shorn trees dangle nearly amputated limbs across the path; trees have 
>lain
>down across the trail as if to surrender to the rain and wind; tangled 
>brush
>threatens to trip and trap passers-by."
>
>
>Photo, and rest of the story at:
>http://www.gazette.net/200342/brunswick/news/183170-1.html
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>Message: 8
>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:59:10 EDT
>From: Snodrog5@aol.com
>Subject: Re: [at-l] Trip Report: 7 peaks from the New England Fify
>	Finest list	- Colum...
>To: at-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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>In a message dated 10/15/03 3:53:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>papabear.nyc@verizon.net writes:
>
> > (<A 
>HREF="http://gallery.backcountry.net/papabear_2003_NEFF_Monadnock/abp";>http://gallery.backcountry.net/papabear_2003_NEFF_Monadnock/abp</A>)
>
>Wow! Good stuff, as always, Papa Bear!
>TJ
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>Message: 9
>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:03:47 EDT
>From: Snodrog5@aol.com
>Subject: Re: [at-l] Felix?
>To: at-l@backcountry.net
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>Did you ever notice that almost everytime 'Felix' appears in at-l mail it's
>(he's) followed by a question mark?
>I did.
>Oh yeah, hey Felix?
>"Get your hand off my butt," was one of the highlights of my Friday night.
>Thanks,
>TJ
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>Message: 10
>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:11:20 -0500
>From: Felix <athiker@smithville.net>
>Subject: Re: [at-l] Felix?
>To: Snodrog5@aol.com
>Cc: at-l@backcountry.net
>Message-ID: <1066349480.3f8f33a8bf7c3@mail.bluemarble.net>
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>Quoting Snodrog5@aol.com:
>
> > Did you ever notice that almost everytime 'Felix' appears in at-l mail 
>it's
> > (he's) followed by a question mark?
> > I did.
>
>You wouldn't believe how often it's followed by exclamation marks...though,
>that's usually spoken, not written.
>
>
>
> > Oh yeah, hey Felix?
> > "Get your hand off my butt," was one of the highlights of my Friday 
>night.
>
>I've been advised to inform you that the quote was "I like your hand on my
>arse". You were listening with  your bad ear, remember? (And, no...it 
>wasn't
>really 'arse')
>
>Good seein' ya, TJ...and, all the rest of ya I sawed, too.
>
>
>--
>Felix J. McGillicuddy
>ME-->GA '98
>"Your Move"
>http://Felixhikes.tripod.com
>
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>Message: 11
>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:11:19 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
>From: janl2@mindspring.com
>Subject: [at-l] Are hostels/motels really a necessity?
>To: kellyswhitman@hotmail.com, at-l@mailman.backcountry.net,
>	womenhikers@yahoo.com, hikersRUs@yahoo.com
>Message-ID:
>	<31566615.1066349490338.JavaMail.root@wamui06.slb.atl.earthlink.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
>
> >It looks like I just might be able to scrape the funds together for a
> >(budget) 2004 thruhike. I'm still not sure about some things but all of a
> >sudden
>
>This lovely flyer was spread around the Gathering:
>
>"If money is holding you back from your FIRST thru-hike on the AT, I may be 
>of help in '04.
>For more information, write:
>AT Help
>PO Box 68571
>Virginia beach, VA 23471"
>
>Perhaps someone could post it on Whiteblaze.net as well, i'm not plugged in 
>there.
>Jan LiteShoe
>
>
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>Message: 12
>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:38:29 -0700
>From: "Kelly Whitman" <kellyswhitman@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [at-l] Are hostels/motels really a necessity?
>To: at-l@mailman.backcountry.net
>Message-ID: <Law9-F126fxxcQrIaXt00006d78@hotmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
>Eh... this isn't anything illegal, immoral, or fattening, is it?
>
>Kelly Whitman
>INTP
>-----------
>"There ARE no other women like me."  -- 7 of 9
>
> >This lovely flyer was spread around the Gathering:
> >
> >"If money is holding you back from your FIRST thru-hike on the AT, I may 
>be
> >of help in '04.
> >For more information, write:
> >AT Help
> >PO Box 68571
> >Virginia beach, VA 23471"
> >
> >Perhaps someone could post it on Whiteblaze.net as well, i'm not plugged 
>in
> >there.
> >Jan LiteShoe
>
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>Message: 13
>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:46:56 EDT
>From: ShaunaShatto@aol.com
>Subject: [at-l] New Birthday List w/ WC and JB
>To: at-l@mailman.backcountry.net
>Message-ID: <147.1ad5204e.2cc09600@aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Snail Male--January 4
>  Walkabout--January 8
>  Artcloutmn--January 10
>  Lynn Setzer--January 11
>  Paul Miller--January 12
>
>  Chase - Feb 11
>  Ke Kaahawe - Feb 12
>  Nina--Feb 18
>  Earthworm--Feb 19
>  Skylander Jack--Feb 24
>  WeatherCarrot--February 29
>
>  CJ -Brian Umbrell-- March 9
>  Jan Leitshuh - March 12
>  Datto--March 20
>  T.--March 20
>  Navigator--March 24
>
>  Dee--April 15
>  Kinnickinic--April 22 (Earth Day)
>  Charles--April 23
>  Dawg--April  30
>
>  Lilla--May 4
>  Weary--May 4
>  Rusty--May 11
>  Orangebug--May 15
>  Mags--May 19
>  Shauna--May 23
>  Larry--May 31
>  Pilgrim--May 26
>
>  Dutch Treat--June 6
>  WhoAh--June 8
>  Amy Friends--June 29
>
>  JB--July 5
>  Thru-Thinker--July 7
>  TJ--July 13
>  Sloetoe--July 14
>  Gary from NN--July 15
>  Crystal--July 17
>  High Anxiety--July 20
>  KKupersmith--July 21
>  Redhead--July 23
>  Leapfrog--July 27
>  Gary Roberts--July 31
>
>  B.S. Allen--August 24
>
>  Jim--September 11
>  Kathy--September 15
>  Vcat--September 29
>
>  Coosa--October 3
>  Anklebear--October 4
>  Sly--October 6
>  Kelly--October 6
>  Felix--October 12
>  Ryan Brooks--October 13
>  Suz--October 14
>  Jackie--October 19
>  Kelly Whitman--October 19
>  Kahley--October 20
>  Twilight--October 21
>  Wildbill--October 25
>
>  Hummingbird--November 17
>  Saunterer--November 18
>  ATwanabe--November 21
>  Sharon Sharpe--November 23
>  Tombone--November 27
>
>  Give Me Chocolate--December 10
>  Ginny--December 10
>  Karen(P.O.G.)--December 12
>  TenToes--December 14
>  Regan--December 14
>  Turtle--December 18
>  Stitches--December 20
>  Rich Lubitz--December 27
>  Hotdog--December 27
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>Message: 14
>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:47:07 EDT
>From: Snodrog5@aol.com
>Subject: Re: [at-l] Felix?
>To: at-l@backcountry.net
>Message-ID: <148.1ad36d80.2cc0960b@aol.com>
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>In a message dated 10/16/03 8:12:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>athiker@smithville.net writes:
>
> > >Oh yeah, hey Felix?
> > >"Get your hand off my butt," was one of the highlights of my Friday 
>night.
> >
> > I've been advised to inform you that the quote was "I like your hand on 
>my
> > arse". You were listening with your bad ear, remember? (And, no...it 
>wasn't
> > really 'arse')
>
>Really?? Man, no wonder I slept alone all weekend...
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>Message: 15
>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:19:08 EDT
>From: ShaunaShatto@aol.com
>Subject: [at-l] Birthday List - Now including Rami
>To: at-l@mailman.backcountry.net
>Message-ID: <b8.497d44ed.2cc09d8c@aol.com>
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>Snail Male--January 4
>  Walkabout--January 8
>  Artcloutmn--January 10
>  Lynn Setzer--January 11
>  Paul Miller--January 12
>
>  Chase - Feb 11
>  Ke Kaahawe - Feb 12
>  Nina--Feb 18
>  Earthworm--Feb 19
>  Skylander Jack--Feb 24
>  WeatherCarrot--February 29
>
>  CJ -Brian Umbrell-- March 9
>  Jan Leitshuh - March 12
>  Datto--March 20
>  T.--March 20
>  Navigator--March 24
>
>  Dee--April 15
>  Kinnickinic--April 22 (Earth Day)
>  Charles--April 23
>  Dawg--April  30
>
>  Lilla--May 4
>  Weary--May 4
>  Rusty--May 11
>  Orangebug--May 15
>  Mags--May 19
>  Shauna--May 23
>  Larry--May 31
>  Pilgrim--May 26
>
>  Dutch Treat--June 6
>  WhoAh--June 8
>  Amy Friends--June 29
>
>  JB--July 5
>  Thru-Thinker--July 7
>  TJ--July 13
>  Sloetoe--July 14
>  Gary from NN--July 15
>  Crystal--July 17
>  Rami Benhameda--July 17
>  High Anxiety--July 20
>  KKupersmith--July 21
>  Redhead--July 23
>  Leapfrog--July 27
>  Gary Roberts--July 31
>
>  B.S. Allen--August 24
>
>  Jim--September 11
>  Kathy--September 15
>  Vcat--September 29
>
>  Coosa--October 3
>  Anklebear--October 4
>  Sly--October 6
>  Kelly--October 6
>  Felix--October 12
>  Ryan Brooks--October 13
>  Suz--October 14
>  Jackie--October 19
>  Kelly Whitman--October 19
>  Kahley--October 20
>  Twilight--October 21
>  Wildbill--October 25
>
>  Hummingbird--November 17
>  Saunterer--November 18
>  ATwanabe--November 21
>  Sharon Sharpe--November 23
>  Tombone--November 27
>
>  Give Me Chocolate--December 10
>  Ginny--December 10
>  Karen(P.O.G.)--December 12
>  TenToes--December 14
>  Regan--December 14
>  Turtle--December 18
>  Stitches--December 20
>  Rich Lubitz--December 27
>  Hotdog--December 27
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>Message: 16
>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:11:33 -0400
>From: "Charles Copeland" <charles@uswnet.com>
>Subject: Re: [at-l] Birthday List - Now including Rami
>To: <at-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
>Message-ID: <008101c39453$fd0203f0$6501a8c0@usi2k>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>I think its pretty cool that the original birthday list has over doubled in 
>size - but what's up with August?  Only one hiker with an August 
>birthday???
>
>:-)
>
>Charles
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: ShaunaShatto@aol.com
>To: at-l@mailman.backcountry.net
>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:19 PM
>Subject: [at-l] Birthday List - Now including Rami
>
>
>Snail Male--January 4
>  Walkabout--January 8
>  Artcloutmn--January 10
>  Lynn Setzer--January 11
>  Paul Miller--January 12
>
>  Chase - Feb 11
>  Ke Kaahawe - Feb 12
>  Nina--Feb 18
>  Earthworm--Feb 19
>  Skylander Jack--Feb 24
>  WeatherCarrot--February 29
>
>  CJ -Brian Umbrell-- March 9
>  Jan Leitshuh - March 12
>  Datto--March 20
>  T.--March 20
>  Navigator--March 24
>
>  Dee--April 15
>  Kinnickinic--April 22 (Earth Day)
>  Charles--April 23
>  Dawg--April  30
>
>  Lilla--May 4
>  Weary--May 4
>  Rusty--May 11
>  Orangebug--May 15
>  Mags--May 19
>  Shauna--May 23
>  Larry--May 31
>  Pilgrim--May 26
>
>  Dutch Treat--June 6
>  WhoAh--June 8
>  Amy Friends--June 29
>
>  JB--July 5
>  Thru-Thinker--July 7
>  TJ--July 13
>  Sloetoe--July 14
>  Gary from NN--July 15
>  Crystal--July 17
>  Rami Benhameda--July 17
>  High Anxiety--July 20
>  KKupersmith--July 21
>  Redhead--July 23
>  Leapfrog--July 27
>  Gary Roberts--July 31
>
>  B.S. Allen--August 24
>
>  Jim--September 11
>  Kathy--September 15
>  Vcat--September 29
>
>  Coosa--October 3
>  Anklebear--October 4
>  Sly--October 6
>  Kelly--October 6
>  Felix--October 12
>  Ryan Brooks--October 13
>  Suz--October 14
>  Jackie--October 19
>  Kelly Whitman--October 19
>  Kahley--October 20
>  Twilight--October 21
>  Wildbill--October 25
>
>  Hummingbird--November 17
>  Saunterer--November 18
>  ATwanabe--November 21
>  Sharon Sharpe--November 23
>  Tombone--November 27
>
>  Give Me Chocolate--December 10
>  Ginny--December 10
>  Karen(P.O.G.)--December 12
>  TenToes--December 14
>  Regan--December 14
>  Turtle--December 18
>  Stitches--December 20
>  Rich Lubitz--December 27
>  Hotdog--December 27
>
>
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>Message: 17
>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:06:54 -0400
>From: "Leslie Booher" <lbooher@pure.net>
>Subject: [at-l] Odd Bits---
>To: <at-l@backcountry.net>
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>The county we live in has a new visitor's center/arts/theater/etc. 
>combination.  In anticipation of hikers and bikers coming through, they put 
>showers in it.  That's fabulous!  I wish more places along the AT did that.
>
>The down side is that the trail that they're banking on hasn't been built 
>yet.  I don't think the land is even acquired yet.  Plus, the big draw at 
>the other end of the loop trail, the interaction place, went out of 
>business.  It was a huge anti-bellum mansion that had all been restored and 
>a 90 room motel added on.  Gorgeous place.  Closed.
>
>I don't know why I felt led to share this, Kelly's question about town 
>stops, I guess.
>
>anklebear
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>Message: 18
>Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 00:09:29 -0300
>From: "Marielle & Paul" <hikers99@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [at-l] Are hostels/motels really a necessity?
>To: <at-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
>Message-ID: <000e01c3945c$1508b4a0$2e826395@gareau>
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>I dont know about illegal, but it sure sounds like a lot of the SPAM I have 
>been getting lately
>
>
>PA
>
>--
>
>- In at-l@yahoogroups.com, "Kelly Whitman" <kellyswhitman@h...> wrote:
> > Eh... this isn't anything illegal, immoral, or fattening, is it?
> >
> > Kelly Whitman
> > INTP
> > -----------
> > "There ARE no other women like me."  -- 7 of 9
> >
> > >This lovely flyer was spread around the Gathering:
> > >
> > >"If money is holding you back from your FIRST thru-hike on the AT, I 
>may be
> > >of help in '04.
> > >For more information, write:
> > >AT Help
> > >PO Box 68571
> > >Virginia beach, VA 23471"
> > >
> > >Perhaps someone could post it on Whiteblaze.net as well, i'm not 
>plugged in
> > >there.
> > >Jan LiteShoe
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>Message: 19
>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:32:28 -0400
>From: "Leslie Booher" <lbooher@pure.net>
>Subject: Re: [at-l] Felix?
>To: <Snodrog5@aol.com>, <at-l@backcountry.net>
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>   >Oh yeah, hey Felix?
>   >"Get your hand off my butt," was one of the highlights of my Friday 
>night.
>
>   I've been advised to inform you that the quote was "I like your hand on 
>my
>   arse". You were listening with your bad ear, remember? (And, no...it 
>wasn't
>   really 'arse')
>
>
>Really?? Man, no wonder I slept alone all weekend...
>
>
>This is beginning to sound more and more like "Trains, Planes, and 
>Automobiles".  I'm beginning to wish I'd been there.  <G>  anklebear
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>Message: 20
>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:41:09 -0400
>From: "Gadog430" <gadog430@charter.net>
>Subject: Re: [at-l] Felix?
>To: "Leslie Booher" <lbooher@pure.net>, <Snodrog5@aol.com>,
>	<at-l@backcountry.net>
>Message-ID: <006d01c39460$81198350$d2439e18@youru10ixi0anw>
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>"THOSE AREN'T TWO PILLOWS YOU HAVE YOUR HAND BETWEEN."
>PT & A is a funny funny movie. My Dad and I laugh and laugh.
>
>Dawg
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Leslie Booher
>   To: Snodrog5@aol.com ; at-l@backcountry.net
>   Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:32 PM
>   Subject: Re: [at-l] Felix?
>
>
>     >Oh yeah, hey Felix?
>     >"Get your hand off my butt," was one of the highlights of my Friday 
>night.
>
>     I've been advised to inform you that the quote was "I like your hand 
>on my
>     arse". You were listening with your bad ear, remember? (And, no...it 
>wasn't
>     really 'arse')
>
>
>   Really?? Man, no wonder I slept alone all weekend...
>
>
>   This is beginning to sound more and more like "Trains, Planes, and 
>Automobiles".  I'm beginning to wish I'd been there.  <G>  anklebear
>
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>Message: 21
>Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:30:55 EDT
>From: Snodrog5@aol.com
>Subject: [at-l] Did you say "Thank You"?
>To: at-l@backcountry.net
>Message-ID: <a2.3d9b84a9.2cc1490f@aol.com>
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>Did you say "Thank You"?
>Did you send that summit photo you promised? Drop a postcard to that 
>favorite
>hostel? Send a note to that maintaining club? A get well card to Keith 
>Shaw?
>No doubt you remember seeing those kinds of postcards and photos displayed
>proudly at many hostels, stores, and post offices. They really do mean a 
>lot to
>those that receive them.
>Addresses for almost everyone are in the ALDHA Companion or Wingfoot's 
>book.
>If you need help finding any addresses, post here or drop me a line. I'm 
>sure
>we can find any addresses you want.
>Thank you,
>Teej
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>Message: 22
>Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:34:38 EDT
>From: ShaunaShatto@aol.com
>Subject: [at-l] OT.... but way cool!
>To: at-l@mailman.backcountry.net
>Message-ID: <62.36132711.2cc157fe@aol.com>
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>This is really great!  Check it out
>
>
>
>http://www.ticz.com/homes/users/bob/On-A-Rock/On-A-Rock.htm
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>Message: 23
>Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:04:42 EDT
>From: ShaunaShatto@aol.com
>Subject: [at-l] OT: Boy Missing in N.H. Woods - News Story
>To: at-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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>Boy Missing In N.H. Woods
>
>LINCOLN, N.H., Oct. 17, 2003
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Patric McCarthy (left) and his dad, Steve McCarthy. The 10-year-old has 
>been
>missing since Oct. 13, since disappearing in the woods only 300 yards away
>from his family's condo in Lincoln, N.H. (Photo: AP / CBS)
>
>
>
>"We feel like maybe he's hiding somewhere, he's tired, he's exhausted, he
>can't really call out, and they're going to come across him."
>Josephine Bevilacqua, a friend of the family
>
>
>Corrections officers from the state prison in Berlin join volunteers in
>searching the forest where 10-year-old Patric McCarthy was last seen on 
>Monday
>while playing with his stepbrothers. (Photo: AP)
>
>
>Volunteers paddle down the Pemigewasset River as part of the search for
>Patric McCarthy, who police believe might have taken a shortcut through the 
>woods.
>(Photo: AP)
>
>
>
>(CBS/AP) Law enforcement officers, rescue workers and over 500 volunteers 
>are
>continuing to search trails and streams near the Loon Mountain ski area in
>New Hampshire's White Mountains, determined to find 10-year-old Patric 
>McCarthy.
>
>The search is being conducted via police helicopter, on foot, with police
>dogs, volunteers in kayaks, and police officers asking questions of 
>everyone and
>anyone who might have seen or heard something that could provide a clue.
>
>Patric was last seen on Monday afternoon, only 300 yards away from his
>family's condo in the Clear Brook development, and had been playing with 
>his
>stepbrothers, Gabe Fritz, 12, and Noah Fritz, 7, when the three boys 
>decided to race
>back to the house.
>
>Patric never turned up. Police believe he may have taken a wrong turn in 
>the
>woods, where temperatures at night have dipped into the 30s, with wind and
>rain increasing the risk of hypothermia.
>
>"Please, everyone, just never stop looking," said the boy's father, Steve
>McCarthy, who held a news conference Thursday with his wife, Margaret 
>McCarthy,
>Patric's stepmother.
>
>Her mother and friends flew in from Columbus, Ohio, to New Hampshire to be
>with the missing boy's brothers and pray for Patric as the search 
>continues.
>
>The McCarthys are from Bourne, Mass., as is Patric's mother, Dee Murray,
>whose father says she is so worried that she is now under a doctor's care.
>
>The National Crime Information Center has registered Patric as a missing
>child and numerous possibilities are being investigated.
>
>"There's absolutely no indication that he was abducted," says New Hampshire
>State Police Lt. John Scarinza. "Nobody has called with any information 
>along
>those lines."
>
>The Union Leader newspaper reports police are seeking video surveillance
>tapes from gas stations in town and have interviewed over 100 people who 
>were in
>the vicinity on Monday.
>
>Police reportedly have also checked the names of the residents of the condo
>development - the Clear Brook condominiums - and none are individuals who 
>are
>on any list of known child predators.
>
>"We're still upbeat and hopeful," said Fish and Game Captain Marty 
>Garabedian
>Thursday night, updating reporters on the search.
>
>The family went through a roller coaster of emotion Thursday as searchers
>found a baseball cap and a sweatshirt in the woods, items which officials 
>later
>said did not belong to Patric.
>
>"It was a rough day," said Margaret McCarthy. "We all melted down, but I 
>feel
>positive again. If they feel Patric can survive, I have to."
>
>The McCarthys are well-known in Bourne - the Cape Cod, Mass., town where 
>they
>live - as owners of the Gray Gables Country Market, where a "God Bless You,
>Patric" sign now hangs. Neighbors there held a prayer vigil Tuesday night.
>
>Among those praying for the 4-foot 10-inch, 85-pound fourth grader are
>classmates and teachers at the elementary school in Bourne.
>
>"Our prayers certainly go out to his family for his safety," says school
>principal Don Morissey, who describes Patric as "never any trouble, just a 
>great
>kid."
>
>"We feel like maybe he's hiding somewhere, he's tired, he's exhausted, he
>can't really call out, and they're going to come across him," Josephine
>Bevilacqua, a friend of the family, told WBZ-TV.
>
>Over 200 Bourne residents have made the decision to get in the car and 
>drive
>the three and a half hours to New Hampshire to join the search.
>
>Among them are Lizzie and Raymond Rioux, whose daughter is Patric's
>babysitter.
>
>"I think God is leading the way now," Lizzie Rioux told the Union Leader. 
>"We
>have to bring him home. We just have to bring him home."
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>Message: 24
>Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:43:30 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Sloetoe <sloetoe@yahoo.com>
>Subject: [at-l] Papa Bear's Manhatten/Staten Island High Points trip
>To: at-l@backcountry.net
>Message-ID: <20031017154330.18013.qmail@web20609.mail.yahoo.com>
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>(From 10/8, I think)
>Yes, a very ordinary day in the city. ... But something
>out-of-the ordinary was about to happen.  Something in fact so
>extraordinary that there is no record of it ever happening
>before.  Funky Freddy and Papa Bear were about to match
>their wits, their courage and their strength against the
>topography, the mean streets and yea even against the best that
>the Metropolitan Transit Authority could throw at them.  Fred
>and Papa Bear would attempt climb to the highest points in each
>of the 5 boroughs of the great city using only the power of
>their own legs and the publicly available services of the
>subways, the busses, the trains, the ferries and any and all
>types of conveyance the city had to offer.
>~~~~~~~~~~
>### Once again, Papa Bear shows his knowledge of "Life is either
>a daring adventure, or nothing [at all]." Man. Seeing all the
>usual sights in a most unusual way. [You should consider running
>an NYC hash... http://www.gthhh.com/database/gtroster.asp?zzz=
>There are 8 ways to follow funky trail (with others in tow) in
>NYC -- Yow!) And talk about your "being in the world, but not of
>the world." How many people do you suppose looked upon he and
>Funky Freddy and never had a clue of their record-setting
>adventure? And of course, there's the fact that it was such a
>pleasurable read...
>
>Thanks for the off-AT trip report, Papa Bear.
>I'm looking forward to the next.
>
>Sloetoe
>(reduced to sometime at-l digester...)
>
>=====
>Spatior! Nitor! Nitor! Tempero!
>    Pro Pondera Et Meliora.
>
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