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[pct-l] non-PCT talk



So not to be an a-hole or anything, but by your own logic, isn't this very 
thread not related to hiking the PCT and hence a waste of my, and everyone 
else on the list's, time?

Relax everyone. Happy Holidays.

Daniel


>From: Chai Guy <chaiguy@gmail.com>
>To: Jeff Moorehead <jeffmoorehead1@cox.net>
>CC: PCT MailingList <pct-l@backcountry.net>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] non-PCT talk
>Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:42:09 -0800
>
>Jeff,
>
>My point was that you could make an argument for a lot of things
>related to the environment and politics (and other topics) to be
>included in this list. If I wanted to read about or have discussions
>pertaining to ANWR or other environmental/political topics I could do
>so from a number of other sources. That is not why I joined this list.
>I joined this list to learn about the Pacific Crest Trail and
>thru-hiking the trail.
>
>
>I guess that's where you and I disagree.
>
>By the way Sam Alito is a recent George Bush Supreme Court nominee who
>has the distinction of being the first Supreme Court Nominee to be
>opposed by the Sierra Club since the Justice Bork nomination of 1987.
>http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/SupremeCourt/story?id=1265660
>
>On 12/23/05, Jeff Moorehead <jeffmoorehead1@cox.net> wrote:
> > Chai Guy,
> >  What a good memory you have! Unfortunately most items on your list are
> > contrived. Don't become a lawyer :)
> > Butl let me give your list a try:
> >
> > Global Warming>> I think this is a relevant topic to the PCT list as it
> > affects the rate of disappearance of glaciers and permanent snow fields 
>and
> > the vertical ranges of species you're likely to see on the PCT. I 
>managed to
> > get ahold of some data sets on the vertical ranges of pikas. I'm going 
>to
> > take natural history notes on my trip to make comparisons. I think this
> > subject  is one of the most relevant 'big picture' topics to be brought 
>up
> > on the list. I grant you that it happens to have its political 
>repercussions
> > as well. But I got the idea for the pika study from a link someone 
>posted
> > here...
> > --
> > NAFTA,  >>I haven't encountered this topic on the list
> >
> > Clear Cutting, >> I haven't encountered this topic on the list but I 
>would
> > think this is extremely relevant where it encroaches on the PCT 
>corridor.
> >
> > American Indian Tribal Sovereignty,>> I haven't encountered this topic 
>on
> > the list
> >
> > Tookie Williams >>I haven't encountered this topic on the list
> >
> > California Condor Conservation>> again, why don't people look outside of 
>the
> > human species for interesting topical discussions? Someday, you might be
> > able to walk through the San Bernadinos and San Gabriels on the PCT and
> > actually see these birds flying in their once natural habitat. You have 
>no
> > interest in this?
> >
> > Strip Mining>> see clear cutting
> >
> > Leonard Peltier>> definitely not on this list
> > ,
> > George Bush's Policy onthe Environment>> not relevant????
> >
> > 9/11>>I haven't encountered this topic on the list
> >
> > The War in Iraq>> I haven't encountered this topic on the list
> >
> > Hetch Hetchy >> I haven't encountered this topic on the list
> >
> > California Campaign for Clean Water>> I'll agree but I never saw the
> > discussion on this list
> >
> > Gulf War Syndrome>> same
> >
> > TomKat >> you're scraping
> >
> > Samuel Alito >>who?
> > Earth First!>>.....
> > Coalition for Clean Air>>...
> > Controlled Burns >> again, I see this as relevant.. but you don't
> >
> > Should we open up all of these topics for conversation on the list
> > because someone feels that they can be connected in "in the big
> > picture" to the PCT? >> Yes I think we should, at least the ones that 
>are
> > relevant. Most of the topics you brought up are not relevant and thus 
>have
> > never emerged on this list...
> >
> > I'm not in favor of drilling in ANWR, I'm just not in favor of
> > discussing it on a list that is supposed to be about hiking the PCT.
> > >> I thought the list was about all topics related to the PCT, not just 
>the
> > >> logistics of hiking it. Environmental degradation and preservation 
>seem
> > >> to be relevant in my opinion-- I have learned a great deal  but about 
>the
> > >> politics of preservation from many astute members who contribute 
>their
> > >> thoughts here.
> >
> > In a larger sense, this whole discussion we are having emanates from not
> > being able to get out hiking, I'm stuck here at home -- otherwise I 
>wouldn't
> > have spent time on this reply-- so I guess we are still relevant!!! See 
>you
> > on the trail with my pika notes in hand...
> >
> >
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