[pct-l] non-PCT talk

[chaiguy at gmail.com (Chai Guy)]

Jeff,

My point was that you could make an argument for a lot of things
related to the environment and politics (and other topics) to be
included in this list. If I wanted to read about or have discussions
pertaining to ANWR or other environmental/political topics I could do
so from a number of other sources. That is not why I joined this list.
I joined this list to learn about the Pacific Crest Trail and
thru-hiking the trail.


I guess that's where you and I disagree.

By the way Sam Alito is a recent George Bush Supreme Court nominee who
has the distinction of being the first Supreme Court Nominee to be
opposed by the Sierra Club since the Justice Bork nomination of 1987.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/SupremeCourt/story?id=1265660

On 12/23/05, Jeff Moorehead <jeffmoorehead1@cox.net> wrote:
> Chai Guy,
>  What a good memory you have! Unfortunately most items on your list are
> contrived. Don't become a lawyer :)
> Butl let me give your list a try:
>
> Global Warming>> I think this is a relevant topic to the PCT list as it
> affects the rate of disappearance of glaciers and permanent snow fields and
> the vertical ranges of species you're likely to see on the PCT. I managed to
> get ahold of some data sets on the vertical ranges of pikas. I'm going to
> take natural history notes on my trip to make comparisons. I think this
> subject  is one of the most relevant 'big picture' topics to be brought up
> on the list. I grant you that it happens to have its political repercussions
> as well. But I got the idea for the pika study from a link someone posted
> here...
> --
> NAFTA,  >>I haven't encountered this topic on the list
>
> Clear Cutting, >> I haven't encountered this topic on the list but I would
> think this is extremely relevant where it encroaches on the PCT corridor.
>
> American Indian Tribal Sovereignty,>> I haven't encountered this topic on
> the list
>
> Tookie Williams >>I haven't encountered this topic on the list
>
> California Condor Conservation>> again, why don't people look outside of the
> human species for interesting topical discussions? Someday, you might be
> able to walk through the San Bernadinos and San Gabriels on the PCT and
> actually see these birds flying in their once natural habitat. You have no
> interest in this?
>
> Strip Mining>> see clear cutting
>
> Leonard Peltier>> definitely not on this list
> ,
> George Bush's Policy onthe Environment>> not relevant????
>
> 9/11>>I haven't encountered this topic on the list
>
> The War in Iraq>> I haven't encountered this topic on the list
>
> Hetch Hetchy >> I haven't encountered this topic on the list
>
> California Campaign for Clean Water>> I'll agree but I never saw the
> discussion on this list
>
> Gulf War Syndrome>> same
>
> TomKat >> you're scraping
>
> Samuel Alito >>who?
> Earth First!>>.....
> Coalition for Clean Air>>...
> Controlled Burns >> again, I see this as relevant.. but you don't
>
> Should we open up all of these topics for conversation on the list
> because someone feels that they can be connected in "in the big
> picture" to the PCT? >> Yes I think we should, at least the ones that are
> relevant. Most of the topics you brought up are not relevant and thus have
> never emerged on this list...
>
> I'm not in favor of drilling in ANWR, I'm just not in favor of
> discussing it on a list that is supposed to be about hiking the PCT.
> >> I thought the list was about all topics related to the PCT, not just the
> >> logistics of hiking it. Environmental degradation and preservation seem
> >> to be relevant in my opinion-- I have learned a great deal  but about the
> >> politics of preservation from many astute members who contribute their
> >> thoughts here.
>
> In a larger sense, this whole discussion we are having emanates from not
> being able to get out hiking, I'm stuck here at home -- otherwise I wouldn't
> have spent time on this reply-- so I guess we are still relevant!!! See you
> on the trail with my pika notes in hand...
>
>
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