Gordon, been watching the ATML or the AT-L have
you? They do seem to have a great deal about that sort of thing on
those lists, probably more so on the ATML. That list seems to be a bit
pretentious at times.
On your started topic: While I am opposed to
any user fees, ( if I pay user fees to help maintain certain services, shouldn't
my children or grandchildren have first shot at using the areas in the
future? After all, if the Government isn't willing to pony up to keep
these areas, why should all those people who didn't pay user fees in the past,
be allowed to use the areas in the future? Just my way of saying everyone should
support these areas. It's a legacy everyone will share). I believe
that self registration is the best way to go, especially when dealing with
limited hours of operation of government offices. Okay, I'll get off my
soapbox.
Later, Pat
Loomis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 2:45
PM
Subject: Re: [nct-l] This list
I am still here. I also would like to see the list active
again.
Just for a starter topic how about trail fees and permits. I there any way
we as a group could get some sort of a permit/pass etc. for hiking in
restricted/fee areas? One area which comes to mind is the Pictured Rocks
trail. A permit is required but obtaining a permit is difficult for someone
hiking more trail than just that designated trail. The office is only open
limited hours and they want a strict itinerary which is difficult with an
extended hike. I can see where you could get to the permit office at 5:01 PM
and not being able to obtain a permit until 9:00 AM. So what do you do? Sleep
in the parking lot or take your chances on getting caught w/o a permit.
I am sure that there are several areas where this is a problem. Perhaps it
would be possible to get an off trail permit via phone or have a self
registration system w/ a NCT membership. Any other ideas?
I would like to see a discussion on topics like the above instead of which
is the best stove, filter, tent etc. Also guns and cell phones have been beat
to death.
Gordon Lachniet
Patrick Loomis wrote:
One reason for low activity could be the lack
of a direct sign-up link on the backcountry.net website. Probably not
very many people have actually taken the time and effort to figure out how
to subscribe. Just so we have an idea of how many people are really on
this list, (I consider fifteen to twenty active members the minimum to keep
a list interesting) why doesn't everyone who receives this message
make a post to this list and we can all see how many there
are. Thanks, Pat
Loomis