[at-l] A suggestion that Ryan create the OT-L

[jbryankramer at msn.com (J Bryan Kramer)]

Not to be different but how would that be any different than the TA list
which was widely avoided by AT list members. For my part the moderator
appointed did not seem to _me_ to be from the neutral side and I never
joined it. I haven't heard any positive comments about TA from the
participants either.

Bryan

 Samuel Adams advised, "Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity,
and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us from the former, for the
sake of the latter."
>
> This past month has been quite a display. "OT" has become a shield to
> defend vitriol and diatribe. Few have willingly participated, and
> some have
> tried to counsel for moderation and topicality.
>
> However, a great few have enjoyed this logorrhea of planetary thermal
> changes, Newton's Laws, partisan politics, Darwin's theories, and other
> terribly vital topics. A pittance have tried to talk trail, even to the
> point of references to mountains in Upstate NY or Colorado. We are in
> February, with the only sustained gear question was how to stash
> denatured
> alcohol (I like discarded rubbing alcohol bottles and medicine bottles).
>
> This is no longer a hiking list. It once was exclusively a hiking list.
> This list once spilled bile over umbrellas, trekking poles, guns
> and other
> self defense, gear colors and personality assassinations of trail
> characters.
>
> We have moved far beyond that.
>
> Ryan, congratulations on your work to upgrade the servers and to
> deal with
> a variety of delivery problems. I think you need to reconsider the task
> that has fallen on you. The "market" has spoken that hiking is not a
> particularly valued pastime for the heavy users of this list. I wish you
> could figure out how to turn a buck on this new creation, as it appears
> little different from some of the B&D/SM sites found elsewhere, only the
> language is tamer while still shameless. There are no amateurs among this
> crowd.
>
> I'd like to suggest the formation of the OT-L, to allow those few hiking
> aficionados to have the chance to post to a Backcountry.Net site. I even
> hesitate to post this note to the list, for fear of getting
> associated with
> these threads.
>
> OrangeBug
>
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