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[pct-l] Black Toes



Hi Mike There might not be any bears but there is a lot of other annoying
things. If fox tails were money I'd be a trillionare. When I first left hwy
74 it was 11:00 am on Friday. I forgot to check to see if there was a sign
in log at the water cache that I saw as I first left the parking area. From
there it was all up hill, "or Mountain" and very hot. The first night I
camped at a spot that had a yellow T post that read JS5 it was about 9 miles
out. I stopped at 6pm very slow going. The next morning I was on the trail
at 5:45 and got to Fobes Saddle at 9am. Still slow going, and was down on
water. "THANKS TO BILL'S KITCHEN" There was about a dozen gallons of water,
NEW I helped my self to 1 to fill all my empties. From there it took me 2hrs
and 15min. to go 2 miles. yes 2. All up!! From the time I left fobes saddle
I was wearing my head net. The dear flies and horse flies and nats were
atrocious. I had already taken the bottoms of my pants off, bad move. I met
4 hikers that were infested with dear flies and had no repellent of any
kind. Needles to say I didn't have mine either. I continued on still
thinking of how slow I was going. I was carrying about 45 to 50 lbs
including water. Way to heavy. The views were unbelievable. It was awesome.
I honestly didn't realize how far I was going until I was passed by two day
hikers, she carried nothing but two trekking poles, He had the same and a
small day pack. They were probably moving about 3 to 4 mph. they left me
fast. I made it to my truck at 8:10 pm. I had thought of camping at about
4pm but when they went by me I thought that if they could do it so could I.
I guess I just wanted to get home, I was beat. The highest point  was over
8500'.  All I could do was put one foot in front of the other. I think I
need to give myself an extra day on all hikes. Thanks Again to all those
that Cache Water!!!
                  Ground Pounder Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Saenz" <msaenz@mve-architects.com>
To: "Cathy" <tahoe.cat@verizon.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:57 AM
Subject: RE: [pct-l] Black Toes


No bears in Idyllwild area.


M i c h a e l   S a e n z
McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
A r c h i t e c t u r e    P l a n n i n g    I n t e r i o r s
w  w  w  .  m  v  e  -  a  r  c  h  i  t  e  c  t  s  .  c  o  m

-----Original Message-----
From: Cathy [mailto:tahoe.cat@verizon.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 9:34 AM
To: Mike Saenz
Cc: pct-l
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Black Toes

No Mike I haven't thought about what color I should use, I think taking
them
off is a better idea. Heck just pulling them off shouldn't be any more
painful, then maybe one of your "oil cans" might help. PS has anyone
seen
any bears between hwy 74 and the I 10? I guess I'll be doing that solo.
Ground Pounder
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Saenz" <msaenz@mve-architects.com>
To: "Sharon & Chuck Chelin" <chelin@teleport.com>; "Cathy"
<tahoe.cat@verizon.net>
Cc: "pct-l" <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 9:10 AM
Subject: RE: [pct-l] Black Toes


Heh-heh-heh....

All hands,

"Cathy" is actually "Bill", my PCT hiking partner.

Heh-heh-heh....

"Cathy" is his wife's name (her e-mail account).

Snicker-snicker....

Bill (Ground Pounder) is a former Marine (there are NO ex-Marines!).
A big guy. A man's man kind of guy...

HA-HA-HA~!!!!!!

What shade of toe nail polish you planning on using Bill???

WA-HA-HA-HA-ha-ha-ha!!!!!

Can I tell all the other guys about you r toe nail polish, "Cathy"????

WOO-HOO-hoo-hoo-ha-ha-ha!!!!!!!

Hee-hee-hee....

Oh that was good...

Thanks fro my morning's first laugh!!!!

-Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Sharon & Chuck Chelin [mailto:chelin@teleport.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 8:43 PM
To: Cathy
Cc: pct-l
Subject: [pct-l] Black Toes

Good evening, Cathy,

I too have tried many things, but I have found only one thing that will
deal
with the black-nail problem.  Unfortunately, I won't use it:  Toenail
polish.  It doesn't prevent or cure anything that I know of, but it will
cover the nail and make it less conspicuous.  Some women even use black,
or
very dark, polish.

Being a rather straight-laced and conservative guy I am not about to
wear
toenail polish, but you can probably get away with it.  I seem to
continually have some toe or another with the problem.  I keep hoping
they
will eventually just give up and quit growing back, but no luck so far.

Steel-Eye

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cathy" <tahoe.cat@verizon.net>
To: "Ken Powers" <kdpo@pacbell.net>
Cc: "pct-l" <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] permanent injuries from thru-hiking?


> Hi does anyone know what can be done about getting black toes and
nails
> breaking half way back of the nail? This happens a lot to me and it
takes
a
> very long time to grow back, months to almost a year. I've changed
from
> different kinds of boots and different socks but it still happens.
Thanks
> Ground Pounder
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Powers" <kdpo@pacbell.net>
> To: "PCT-L" <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 2:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] permanent injuries from thru-hiking?
>
>
> > The only permanent injury that I have from thru-hiking the PCT  is
that
I
> > can't get enough thru-hiking. I'm always looking for another long
trail
to
> > thru-hike.
> >
> > On a thru-hike my feet, especially my toes, get a numbness. I expect
part
> of
> > that is inadvertent kicking of rocks and roots. Anyway the numbness
foes
> > away within a month of finishing a thru-hike.
> >
> > I used to get pains in my knees when I hiked with Boy Scouts over 10
years
> > ago. Since I have been hiking longer distances I no longer get the
knee
> > pains. I attribute it to stronger knees from more frequent exercise.
> >
> > Ken
> > www.GottaWalk.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pea Hicks" <phix@optigan.com>
> > To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 4:00 AM
> > Subject: [pct-l] permanent injuries from thru-hiking?
> >
> >
> > > hi all-
> > >
> > > i'm wondering if anyone out there has any stories to share vis a
vis
> > > permanent (or at least long-lasting) injuries sustained from the
simple
> > > act of thru-hiking a trail such as the PCT. i'm not talking about
> > > injuries from isolated accidents or incidents- i'm more interested
in,
> > > say, knee or foot injuries due to all that daily stress that
linger
well
> > > after the hike is over. it seems that everyone that attempts such
a
hike
> > > complains about various types of pain either sporadically or
constantly,
> > > but i don't recall reading much about the consequences of
continuing
on
> > > day after day despite the pain... except, of course, in cases
where
the
> > > pain was sufficient to knock the person off the trail... but even
in
> > > those cases, people generally report their eventual recovery.
> > >
> > > so, any stories of permanent injury? any particular types of pain
that
> > > should be interpreted as real red-flags?
> > >
> > > also, when i hiked section A of the pct last year, the main issue
my
> > > body had was illiotibial band syndrome on my right knee. i had
pain on
> > > the outside area of my knee, and it was much worse on downhill
than on
> > > uphill. my knee and hips remained sore for weeks after my hike-
much
> > > longer than i had expected! i have an article with some stretches,
etc,
> > > related to this problem, but i'm wondering if anyone out there has
any
> > > advice, especially techniques or technology to help avoid having
this
> > > problem in the future.
> > >
> > > thanks in advance!
> > > peanut
> > > (pct05 wannabe)
> > >
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