[pct-l] Linda Exposed NOT!

[rob@koberg.com (Robert Koberg)]

I have always wondered if I was ficticious. I will take the bet. It would be
interesting to find out.

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From: "Joan Marshall" <jmarshal@augusta.legato.com>
To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 10:53 AM
Subject: [pct-l] Linda Exposed NOT!


>
> You should be aware that Rich Calliger plays little tricks with his email
> address and makes up fake names an addresses, and then sends out emails to
> act as though others are defending him. List owner beware!!
>
> How many would like to bet this is a ficticious person:
> Robert Koberg" <rob@koberg.com
>
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> From: "Robert Koberg" <rob@koberg.com>
> To: "John Mertes" <jmertes@gte.net>, <at-l@mailman.backcountry.net>,
>    <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>, <nct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>,
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> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Linda Exposed  NOT!
> Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 22:09:27 -0700
>
> This is pathetic. The guy was doing a service to the list by trying to
keep
> it on track and he is getting attacked.
>
> To me, someone posting off-topic material (or questionable OT stuff
> repeatedly) is like someone coming into a an elevator and farting. Maybe
the
> farter doesn't know it's wrong or they can't help themselves.  But,
> nevertheless it is unpleasant for most people in the elevator even if they
> don't complain.
>
> What the original person was doing was stating some basic rules of
> netiquette.
>
> my two cents...
>
>
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> From: "John Mertes" <jmertes@gte.net>
> To: <at-l@mailman.backcountry.net>; <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>;
> <nct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>; <iat-l@mailman.backcountry.net>;
> <ft-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 8:36 PM
> Subject: [pct-l] Linda Exposed NOT!
>
>
> > Having a little spare time today to play around, I decided to
> > investigate (a little) R. J. Calliger's "expose" of Linda, the recipe
> > poster, and her recipe for Tamale Boats. BTY, IANAL.
> >
> > I tried all three URL's that RJ posted, the first and third took me to
> > the same recipe on the  camping.about.com  web site. The second URL was
> > invalid.
> >
> > I tried a search on Yahoo for "tamale boats" and I got 4 hits.  Two were
> > the same as the first and third that Rich posted. Another was to a page
> > where the author was complaining about service in a fast food joint and
> > someone else ordering a lot of tamale boats. The fourth was to the Black
> > Diamond Brewing Company's (located in Walnut Creek, CA) web site listing
> > chicken tamale boats as a menu item; this was the *correct* version of
> > the second URL that RJ said had been disconnected for copyright
> > infringement;  there was no indication that this site had ever been
> > closed for any copyright infringement.
> >
> > It seems tamale boats are a rather wide spread if not well know dish. I
> > didn't find any reference to the origins of the dish. Thus it seems to
> > me, that the basic recipe and dish is an old one and not copyrighted or
> > else in the public domain. RJ's intact copying of the original recipe
> > from the camping site is likely a copyright infringement of whatever
> > rights the camping site has. Linda's recipe may be derived from the one
> > on the camping site, maybe not. However at least hers is not an exact
> > copy and may be considered a derivative work with her (or the real
> > author) having some copyrights to that recipe.
> >
> > Thus at most, the 'evidence' RJ gave slightly suggests a source from
> > which Linda might have copied; there is more likelihood that Linda is
> > simply giving her version of a basic recipe which is NOT copyrighted.
> > Also RJ has obviously infringed whatever copyrights the camping site has
> > to the recipe he copied.
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 5
> From: "Ginny & Jim Owen" <spiritbear2k@hotmail.com>
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net, rob@koberg.com
> Subject: Fwd: [pct-l] Linda Exposed NOT!
> Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 09:15:23 -0400
>
> Robert Koberg wrote:
>
> >This is pathetic. The guy was doing a service to the list by trying to
keep
>
> >it on track and he is getting attacked.
> >
> >To me, someone posting off-topic material (or questionable OT stuff
> >repeatedly) is like someone coming into a an elevator and farting.
> ><snip>
> >
> >What the original person was doing was stating some basic rules of
> >netiquette.
>
>
> Y'know - I could go into this great dissertation about "what this list is
> about" or maybe ask "why 15 posts per day about alcohol stoves are more
> relevant than 4 posts per day about recipes?".  But I'm not gonna do that.
>
> What I AM gonna do is ask Rob to specifically define what HE thinks this
> list is about and to define precisely what he means by "Keeping it on
> track".  Then we'll have something to talk about.  Until and unless he can
> define those things, then he's just blowin' smoke.
>
> And the generalized "it should be about hiking the PCT" is NOT an answer.
> That's only an answer for those who don't understand what long distance
> hiking is about.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> From: CharlieJones@aol.com
> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 09:44:08 EDT
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Linda Exposed NOT!
> To: spiritbear2k@hotmail.com, pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net,
rob@koberg.com
>
> In a message dated 7/2/01 6:31:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time,=20
> spiritbear2k@hotmail.com writes:
>
> "What I AM gonna do is ask Rob to specifically define what HE thinks
this=20
> list is about and to define precisely what he means by "Keeping it on=20
> track".=A0 Then we'll have something to talk about.=A0 Until and unless he
> c=
> an=20
> define those things, then he's just blowin' smoke. "
>
> Do us all a favor, guys, and take your arguments offline.=20
>
> If other subscribers want to follow Jim and Rob's exchange of opinions,
> emai=
> l=20
> them directly and ask to be included.
>
> If anyone wants to attack me for my comment, send it directly to ME, not
> to=20
> the entire list.
>
> Have a good hike (and tell us about that),
> Charlie
>
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> Message: 7
> From: ddurussel@provide.net
> Reply-to: ddurussel@provide.net
> To: PCT-L@mailman.backcountry.net
> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 10:11:27 +0500
> Subject: [pct-l] (no subject)
>
> please take me off the mail list
>
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> Message: 8
> From: "Reynolds, WT" <reynolds@iLAN.com>
> To: "'Ginny & Jim Owen'" <spiritbear2k@hotmail.com>,
>    pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 09:39:30 -0700
> Subject: [pct-l] Point of this List
>
> Except that I don't agree that this list or the PCT is about long distance
> hiking, I agree with your post. I certainly agree that this list is the
only
> list about LDH on the PCT but not that -- thats all it's about. In general
> it would be amusing to know what listers think this list should be about
but
> my understanding is that this list is a dictatorship. Brick gets to say.
> This works for me.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ginny & Jim Owen [mailto:spiritbear2k@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 6:15 AM
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net; rob@koberg.com
> Subject: Fwd: [pct-l] Linda Exposed NOT!
>
>
> Robert Koberg wrote:
>
> >This is pathetic. The guy was doing a service to the list by trying to
keep
>
> >it on track and he is getting attacked.
> >
> >To me, someone posting off-topic material (or questionable OT stuff
> >repeatedly) is like someone coming into a an elevator and farting.
> ><snip>
> >
> >What the original person was doing was stating some basic rules of
> >netiquette.
>
>
> Y'know - I could go into this great dissertation about "what this list is
> about" or maybe ask "why 15 posts per day about alcohol stoves are more
> relevant than 4 posts per day about recipes?".  But I'm not gonna do that.
>
> What I AM gonna do is ask Rob to specifically define what HE thinks this
> list is about and to define precisely what he means by "Keeping it on
> track".  Then we'll have something to talk about.  Until and unless he can
> define those things, then he's just blowin' smoke.
>
> And the generalized "it should be about hiking the PCT" is NOT an answer.
> That's only an answer for those who don't understand what long distance
> hiking is about.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
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