RnR in a grass skirt...WAS...RE: [at-l] TJ Bitching--Longish

[camojack at comcast.net (camojack@comcast.net)]

At the risk of exposing myself to derision by others (like I care), what kind would THAT be? :-)
-"Camo"

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Hehehehe, Camo you are one of a kind. In a good way. 
Dawg
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Subject: Re: RnR in a grass skirt...WAS...RE: [at-l] TJ Bitching--Longish


Remember a couple of weeks ago when I said I'd take my cell fone to the top of Katahdin? I forgot to bring it...
-"Camo"

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> I've seen Shelly pick up trash right below Hawk Mountain that some moron 
> left laying by the Trail. We both were disgusted, and we both picked it up. 
> I have also seen her stop in 32 degree weather when it was raining just 
> south of Winding Stair Gap and hold her arms out wide and say, "This is what 
> God had in mind." I have seen her "witness" to others in our travels about 
> the trail, who she knows that loves it, how she loves it, how be both love 
> it, and what it has meant to her life. I've seen it with my own eyes. Both 
> of them. 
> 
> And RNR that is one person on this list. One person that even in times in 
> ONLY ONE YEAR I have been with her has shown love for the trail and a 
> willingness to improve it in little ways, spread it to those that woul! d come 
> to love it, and revere it in the way you say isn't being done. 
> 
> It is being done. You just refuse to see it. 
> Dawg 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Shelly Hale" 
> To: ; 
> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 5:22 PM 
> Subject: RnR in a grass skirt...WAS...RE: [at-l] TJ Bitching--Longish 
> 
> 
> > RnR wrote >>> I know you were trying to be friendly Shelly, but if you 
> called me a fraud or other insult it would have been less 
> > painful than that particular reply... 
> > 
> > Yes, RnR, my invite was meant in a friendly manner. If you took that as 
> an insult, I wholeheartedly apologize. However, I 
> > am still attempting to discern what insulted you. Was it the wearing of 
> the coconut bra? Grass skirt? Having fun! ? Or was it the 
> > part of meeting me? I really do want to meet you. I would love to sit 
> down and discuss the purpose of the trail, protection of 
> > wilderness, and Benton MacKaye's philosophies more in-depth. Even though 
> you've scoffed at me when I've shown interest in your 
> > philosophies and a desire to understand your logic you've dismissed me, 
> and yet I'd still like to meet you. You refuse to share 
> > your wealth of knowledge without at the same time imparting a sharp verbal 
> spanking. Now, I'm not saying that I don't like to be 
> > spanked--but that's a whole 'nother story for a different list. And, I 
> only hope that Thee Clyde didn't get any pictures of that, 
> > or else I'll not only have to sell my house, but also my soul to get those 
> pics back. LOL 
> > Naw, my invite wasn't meant an insult, but ifin ya really wants to be 
> insulted just let me know. I find that I can be a 
> > really creative p! erson when inspired, and you continually do so through 
> your frequent condescension of me. However, I can laugh it 
> > off because you really don't know me. If you really did, it'd prolly 
> scare the hell outta ya! :-) 
> > Call you a fraud? Nah, RnR, I wouldn't do that because I really do think 
> that you have a true love of the AT and/or Benton 
> > MacKaye. I don't dismiss you out of hand simply because you choose to 
> remain anonymous. How is it that you can readily do so with 
> > me simply because I like to joke around and have a good time every now and 
> again? 
> > You really have no clue about me. You've never spoken to me in person and 
> heard that passion and reverence in my voice when 
> > I talk about the trail or hiking. You've not been beside me on the trail 
> hearing me grunt while swinging a Pulaski, seeing me 
> > sweat, or hearing me cuss whil! e doing trail maintenance. You've not seen 
> the disgust on my face while I've had to pick up trash 
> > from the woods to pack it out for some ignorant slob. You've not seen me 
> helping my girls to learn about the myriad of things they 
> > need to know in order to survive in the woods as well as taking care of 
> the wilderness and the Leave No Trace principles--because my 
> > girls, THEY are an integral part of the future for wilderness protection. 
> You've not seen the monetary donations I've made in 
> > support of not only the AT but also the Benton MacKaye Trail among other 
> trails as well as many other trail, hiking, & wilderness 
> > supportive organizations. You've not watched over my shoulder as I penned 
> or emailed letters to legislators to help the trails and 
> > wilderness protective actions. And, you've not seen the tears of awe in 
> my eyes from the sheer beauty of nature to know why I do 
> > all of these thi! ngs. 
> > I am NOT looking for trail sainthood or even a pat on the back for what I 
> do to support and protect my true love. And, I 
> > didn't list my actions outside of this list for kudos; I did it simply to 
> show that you only see one facet of me. As with many 
> > others on the list, you included, we do good works for the trail that go 
> unheralded. Not many of us are comfortable talking about 
> > those good works or blowing our own horns. 
> > However, I be damned if I let you make me feel bad about or beneath you 
> when having fun every now and again. You know what? 
> > I think with all the many ways that each of us on this list as well as 
> other bodies of trail communities that give back in whatever 
> > form we choose that we DESERVE to get together and have a good time. We 
> DESERVE to joke and laugh and commune whether it be online 
> > or at a r! uck. We don't have to be stodgy, uptight, and serious all of the 
& gt; time to show our love and support. Heck, we don't even 
> > have to agree all of the time on every infinitesimal aspect of hiking. 
> However, we do DESERVE to get to know each other over a 
> > banquet of food and relax amongst others that get where we come from in 
> our passion for the AT. 
> > The question is---Do you, RnR, do you really understand and know the rest 
> of the folks on this list let alone me? It's 
> > really hard for me to fathom whether you do or not. You deem it damaging 
> to the future of the trail and its purpose for me to joke 
> > online. But tit for tat, Sweetheart, while I don't know everything that 
> you do outside of these internet forums, I can only view 
> > you from your posts at times as a divisive individual who thrives on 
> hurting others and crippling the trail community which in turn 
> > decreases understanding of the trail and its! purpose--which in another 
> turn makes a bleak outlook for the future of the trail. You 
> > have told me that by not undertaking serious discussions only in internet 
> forums that I give newbies to the list the impression that 
> > we are all just a bunch of goof-offs with little credence to our messages. 
> However, because you spend so much of your time in this 
> > online community attempting to get a rise out of others, being 
> condescending, and slicing into their passion with the stroke of the 
> > keyboard, you give the impression to others that this forum is a place 
> where one has to watch what they say else someone will 
> > attack them. I know because I've been on the wrong end of your sharp 
> keyboard, but I try to not let you deter me. 
> > Nevertheless, I would enjoy meeting you--for no other purpose or ulterior 
> motive than to get to know you and what driv! es 
> > you. And, if you don't want to wear the coconut bra, I'll wear it for 
> you. Heck, I'll even get lei-ed for ya. Wrap that cloak of 
> > anonymity around you, assume another real as well as trail name, rent a 
> car, use a false home location, and come to the Soruck. 
> > There were well over 100 folks there last year, and I only knew about 20 
> of them. I invite you to come get to know the trail 
> > community. I invite you to come get to know me. Goodness, if you'd come, 
> I'd even lead a discussion on Benton MacKaye and would 
> > even cover his purpose of the trail. Come hear what folks think in 
> person. 
> > 
> > Tenacious Tanasi 
> > (Shelly Hale) 
> > 
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hiking_backpacking_events/ 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Date: Sun Oct 16 19:53:44 2005
Subject: RnR in a grass skirt...WAS...RE: [at-l] TJ Bitching--Longish
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> Remember a couple of weeks ago when I said I'd take my cell fone to the
> top of Katahdin? I forgot to bring it...
> -"Camo"
>

Camo,
Dya think there is a market for a ce*lpho*ne shaped backpack?  It could
have a full length top flap hydration pocket that flips open to reveal a
dial pad of numbered pockets maybe.  And maybe a long antenna shaped
pocket on the side where you could store tent poles that doubles as an
umbrella holder.  Function follows form!  Can't you just see them all up
and down the trail?  Cool!!!  Different colors too.  I think it should
happen.  :)  I still owe you a beer.
Tin Man