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RnR in a grass skirt...WAS...RE: [at-l] TJ Bitching--Longish
Hehehehe, Camo you are one of a kind. In a good way.
Dawg
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From: camojack@comcast.net
To: Gadog430 ; shellydhale@earthlink.net ; RoksnRoots@aol.com ; AT-L@backcountry.net
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: RnR in a grass skirt...WAS...RE: [at-l] TJ Bitching--Longish
Remember a couple of weeks ago when I said I'd take my cell fone to the top of Katahdin? I forgot to bring it...
-"Camo"
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> I've seen Shelly pick up trash right below Hawk Mountain that some moron
> left laying by the Trail. We both were disgusted, and we both picked it up.
> I have also seen her stop in 32 degree weather when it was raining just
> south of Winding Stair Gap and hold her arms out wide and say, "This is what
> God had in mind." I have seen her "witness" to others in our travels about
> the trail, who she knows that loves it, how she loves it, how be both love
> it, and what it has meant to her life. I've seen it with my own eyes. Both
> of them.
>
> And RNR that is one person on this list. One person that even in times in
> ONLY ONE YEAR I have been with her has shown love for the trail and a
> willingness to improve it in little ways, spread it to those that woul! d come
> to love it, and revere it in the way you say isn't being done.
>
> It is being done. You just refuse to see it.
> Dawg
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shelly Hale"
> To: ;
> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 5:22 PM
> Subject: RnR in a grass skirt...WAS...RE: [at-l] TJ Bitching--Longish
>
>
> > RnR wrote >>> I know you were trying to be friendly Shelly, but if you
> called me a fraud or other insult it would have been less
> > painful than that particular reply...
> >
> > Yes, RnR, my invite was meant in a friendly manner. If you took that as
> an insult, I wholeheartedly apologize. However, I
> > am still attempting to discern what insulted you. Was it the wearing of
> the coconut bra? Grass skirt? Having fun! ? Or was it the
> > part of meeting me? I really do want to meet you. I would love to sit
> down and discuss the purpose of the trail, protection of
> > wilderness, and Benton MacKaye's philosophies more in-depth. Even though
> you've scoffed at me when I've shown interest in your
> > philosophies and a desire to understand your logic you've dismissed me,
> and yet I'd still like to meet you. You refuse to share
> > your wealth of knowledge without at the same time imparting a sharp verbal
> spanking. Now, I'm not saying that I don't like to be
> > spanked--but that's a whole 'nother story for a different list. And, I
> only hope that Thee Clyde didn't get any pictures of that,
> > or else I'll not only have to sell my house, but also my soul to get those
> pics back. LOL
> > Naw, my invite wasn't meant an insult, but ifin ya really wants to be
> insulted just let me know. I find that I can be a
> > really creative p! erson when inspired, and you continually do so through
> your frequent condescension of me. However, I can laugh it
> > off because you really don't know me. If you really did, it'd prolly
> scare the hell outta ya! :-)
> > Call you a fraud? Nah, RnR, I wouldn't do that because I really do think
> that you have a true love of the AT and/or Benton
> > MacKaye. I don't dismiss you out of hand simply because you choose to
> remain anonymous. How is it that you can readily do so with
> > me simply because I like to joke around and have a good time every now and
> again?
> > You really have no clue about me. You've never spoken to me in person and
> heard that passion and reverence in my voice when
> > I talk about the trail or hiking. You've not been beside me on the trail
> hearing me grunt while swinging a Pulaski, seeing me
> > sweat, or hearing me cuss whil! e doing trail maintenance. You've not seen
> the disgust on my face while I've had to pick up trash
> > from the woods to pack it out for some ignorant slob. You've not seen me
> helping my girls to learn about the myriad of things they
> > need to know in order to survive in the woods as well as taking care of
> the wilderness and the Leave No Trace principles--because my
> > girls, THEY are an integral part of the future for wilderness protection.
> You've not seen the monetary donations I've made in
> > support of not only the AT but also the Benton MacKaye Trail among other
> trails as well as many other trail, hiking, & wilderness
> > supportive organizations. You've not watched over my shoulder as I penned
> or emailed letters to legislators to help the trails and
> > wilderness protective actions. And, you've not seen the tears of awe in
> my eyes from the sheer beauty of nature to know why I do
> > all of these thi! ngs.
> > I am NOT looking for trail sainthood or even a pat on the back for what I
> do to support and protect my true love. And, I
> > didn't list my actions outside of this list for kudos; I did it simply to
> show that you only see one facet of me. As with many
> > others on the list, you included, we do good works for the trail that go
> unheralded. Not many of us are comfortable talking about
> > those good works or blowing our own horns.
> > However, I be damned if I let you make me feel bad about or beneath you
> when having fun every now and again. You know what?
> > I think with all the many ways that each of us on this list as well as
> other bodies of trail communities that give back in whatever
> > form we choose that we DESERVE to get together and have a good time. We
> DESERVE to joke and laugh and commune whether it be online
> > or at a r! uck. We don't have to be stodgy, uptight, and serious all of the
& gt; time to show our love and support. Heck, we don't even
> > have to agree all of the time on every infinitesimal aspect of hiking.
> However, we do DESERVE to get to know each other over a
> > banquet of food and relax amongst others that get where we come from in
> our passion for the AT.
> > The question is---Do you, RnR, do you really understand and know the rest
> of the folks on this list let alone me? It's
> > really hard for me to fathom whether you do or not. You deem it damaging
> to the future of the trail and its purpose for me to joke
> > online. But tit for tat, Sweetheart, while I don't know everything that
> you do outside of these internet forums, I can only view
> > you from your posts at times as a divisive individual who thrives on
> hurting others and crippling the trail community which in turn
> > decreases understanding of the trail and its! purpose--which in another
> turn makes a bleak outlook for the future of the trail. You
> > have told me that by not undertaking serious discussions only in internet
> forums that I give newbies to the list the impression that
> > we are all just a bunch of goof-offs with little credence to our messages.
> However, because you spend so much of your time in this
> > online community attempting to get a rise out of others, being
> condescending, and slicing into their passion with the stroke of the
> > keyboard, you give the impression to others that this forum is a place
> where one has to watch what they say else someone will
> > attack them. I know because I've been on the wrong end of your sharp
> keyboard, but I try to not let you deter me.
> > Nevertheless, I would enjoy meeting you--for no other purpose or ulterior
> motive than to get to know you and what driv! es
> > you. And, if you don't want to wear the coconut bra, I'll wear it for
> you. Heck, I'll even get lei-ed for ya. Wrap that cloak of
> > anonymity around you, assume another real as well as trail name, rent a
> car, use a false home location, and come to the Soruck.
> > There were well over 100 folks there last year, and I only knew about 20
> of them. I invite you to come get to know the trail
> > community. I invite you to come get to know me. Goodness, if you'd come,
> I'd even lead a discussion on Benton MacKaye and would
> > even cover his purpose of the trail. Come hear what folks think in
> person.
> >
> > Tenacious Tanasi
> > (Shelly Hale)
> >
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hiking_backpacking_events/
> >
> >
> >
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