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RnR in a grass skirt...WAS...RE: [at-l] TJ Bitching--Longish



Hehehehe, Camo you are one of a kind. In a good way. 
Dawg
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: camojack@comcast.net 
  To: Gadog430 ; shellydhale@earthlink.net ; RoksnRoots@aol.com ; AT-L@backcountry.net 
  Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:31 PM
  Subject: Re: RnR in a grass skirt...WAS...RE: [at-l] TJ Bitching--Longish


  Remember a couple of weeks ago when I said I'd take my cell fone to the top of Katahdin? I forgot to bring it...
  -"Camo"

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    > I've seen Shelly pick up trash right below Hawk Mountain that some moron 
    > left laying by the Trail. We both were disgusted, and we both picked it up. 
    > I have also seen her stop in 32 degree weather when it was raining just 
    > south of Winding Stair Gap and hold her arms out wide and say, "This is what 
    > God had in mind." I have seen her "witness" to others in our travels about 
    > the trail, who she knows that loves it, how she loves it, how be both love 
    > it, and what it has meant to her life. I've seen it with my own eyes. Both 
    > of them. 
    > 
    > And RNR that is one person on this list. One person that even in times in 
    > ONLY ONE YEAR I have been with her has shown love for the trail and a 
    > willingness to improve it in little ways, spread it to those that woul! d come 
    > to love it, and revere it in the way you say isn't being done. 
    > 
    > It is being done. You just refuse to see it. 
    > Dawg 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: "Shelly Hale" 
    > To: ; 
    > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 5:22 PM 
    > Subject: RnR in a grass skirt...WAS...RE: [at-l] TJ Bitching--Longish 
    > 
    > 
    > > RnR wrote >>> I know you were trying to be friendly Shelly, but if you 
    > called me a fraud or other insult it would have been less 
    > > painful than that particular reply... 
    > > 
    > > Yes, RnR, my invite was meant in a friendly manner. If you took that as 
    > an insult, I wholeheartedly apologize. However, I 
    > > am still attempting to discern what insulted you. Was it the wearing of 
    > the coconut bra? Grass skirt? Having fun! ? Or was it the 
    > > part of meeting me? I really do want to meet you. I would love to sit 
    > down and discuss the purpose of the trail, protection of 
    > > wilderness, and Benton MacKaye's philosophies more in-depth. Even though 
    > you've scoffed at me when I've shown interest in your 
    > > philosophies and a desire to understand your logic you've dismissed me, 
    > and yet I'd still like to meet you. You refuse to share 
    > > your wealth of knowledge without at the same time imparting a sharp verbal 
    > spanking. Now, I'm not saying that I don't like to be 
    > > spanked--but that's a whole 'nother story for a different list. And, I 
    > only hope that Thee Clyde didn't get any pictures of that, 
    > > or else I'll not only have to sell my house, but also my soul to get those 
    > pics back. LOL 
    > > Naw, my invite wasn't meant an insult, but ifin ya really wants to be 
    > insulted just let me know. I find that I can be a 
    > > really creative p! erson when inspired, and you continually do so through 
    > your frequent condescension of me. However, I can laugh it 
    > > off because you really don't know me. If you really did, it'd prolly 
    > scare the hell outta ya! :-) 
    > > Call you a fraud? Nah, RnR, I wouldn't do that because I really do think 
    > that you have a true love of the AT and/or Benton 
    > > MacKaye. I don't dismiss you out of hand simply because you choose to 
    > remain anonymous. How is it that you can readily do so with 
    > > me simply because I like to joke around and have a good time every now and 
    > again? 
    > > You really have no clue about me. You've never spoken to me in person and 
    > heard that passion and reverence in my voice when 
    > > I talk about the trail or hiking. You've not been beside me on the trail 
    > hearing me grunt while swinging a Pulaski, seeing me 
    > > sweat, or hearing me cuss whil! e doing trail maintenance. You've not seen 
    > the disgust on my face while I've had to pick up trash 
    > > from the woods to pack it out for some ignorant slob. You've not seen me 
    > helping my girls to learn about the myriad of things they 
    > > need to know in order to survive in the woods as well as taking care of 
    > the wilderness and the Leave No Trace principles--because my 
    > > girls, THEY are an integral part of the future for wilderness protection. 
    > You've not seen the monetary donations I've made in 
    > > support of not only the AT but also the Benton MacKaye Trail among other 
    > trails as well as many other trail, hiking, & wilderness 
    > > supportive organizations. You've not watched over my shoulder as I penned 
    > or emailed letters to legislators to help the trails and 
    > > wilderness protective actions. And, you've not seen the tears of awe in 
    > my eyes from the sheer beauty of nature to know why I do 
    > > all of these thi! ngs. 
    > > I am NOT looking for trail sainthood or even a pat on the back for what I 
    > do to support and protect my true love. And, I 
    > > didn't list my actions outside of this list for kudos; I did it simply to 
    > show that you only see one facet of me. As with many 
    > > others on the list, you included, we do good works for the trail that go 
    > unheralded. Not many of us are comfortable talking about 
    > > those good works or blowing our own horns. 
    > > However, I be damned if I let you make me feel bad about or beneath you 
    > when having fun every now and again. You know what? 
    > > I think with all the many ways that each of us on this list as well as 
    > other bodies of trail communities that give back in whatever 
    > > form we choose that we DESERVE to get together and have a good time. We 
    > DESERVE to joke and laugh and commune whether it be online 
    > > or at a r! uck. We don't have to be stodgy, uptight, and serious all of the 
    & gt; time to show our love and support. Heck, we don't even 
    > > have to agree all of the time on every infinitesimal aspect of hiking. 
    > However, we do DESERVE to get to know each other over a 
    > > banquet of food and relax amongst others that get where we come from in 
    > our passion for the AT. 
    > > The question is---Do you, RnR, do you really understand and know the rest 
    > of the folks on this list let alone me? It's 
    > > really hard for me to fathom whether you do or not. You deem it damaging 
    > to the future of the trail and its purpose for me to joke 
    > > online. But tit for tat, Sweetheart, while I don't know everything that 
    > you do outside of these internet forums, I can only view 
    > > you from your posts at times as a divisive individual who thrives on 
    > hurting others and crippling the trail community which in turn 
    > > decreases understanding of the trail and its! purpose--which in another 
    > turn makes a bleak outlook for the future of the trail. You 
    > > have told me that by not undertaking serious discussions only in internet 
    > forums that I give newbies to the list the impression that 
    > > we are all just a bunch of goof-offs with little credence to our messages. 
    > However, because you spend so much of your time in this 
    > > online community attempting to get a rise out of others, being 
    > condescending, and slicing into their passion with the stroke of the 
    > > keyboard, you give the impression to others that this forum is a place 
    > where one has to watch what they say else someone will 
    > > attack them. I know because I've been on the wrong end of your sharp 
    > keyboard, but I try to not let you deter me. 
    > > Nevertheless, I would enjoy meeting you--for no other purpose or ulterior 
    > motive than to get to know you and what driv! es 
    > > you. And, if you don't want to wear the coconut bra, I'll wear it for 
    > you. Heck, I'll even get lei-ed for ya. Wrap that cloak of 
    > > anonymity around you, assume another real as well as trail name, rent a 
    > car, use a false home location, and come to the Soruck. 
    > > There were well over 100 folks there last year, and I only knew about 20 
    > of them. I invite you to come get to know the trail 
    > > community. I invite you to come get to know me. Goodness, if you'd come, 
    > I'd even lead a discussion on Benton MacKaye and would 
    > > even cover his purpose of the trail. Come hear what folks think in 
    > person. 
    > > 
    > > Tenacious Tanasi 
    > > (Shelly Hale) 
    > > 
    > > 
    > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hiking_backpacking_events/ 
    > > 
    > > 
    > > 
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