[at-l] Another point of view

[camojack at comcast.net (camojack@comcast.net)]

Ah, my friend...speaking of a big wind, what you've done here is referred to as *pissing into it* on this particular venue.
(Major waste of time and effort)
-"Camo"

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 With finger pointing going only one way on this list thus far, here's an alternative view sent to me by a thru-hiker friend. rusty 
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> 
> 
> September 04, 2005 
> 
> 
> Why the Katrina storm made me switch from NBC to Fox News! 
> 
> 
> Lee Ellis 
> 
> Watching both Fox and NBC after President Bush had been inspecting the Gulf 
> Coast and New Orleans, I was shocked at how the nets and even some 
> newspapers were trying to blame the Bush Administration for the slowness of 
> help reaching these damaged cities. Obviously, Brian Williams and his news 
> team do not know the laws nor do they know the past history of New Orleans, 
> the city built in a bathtub of a swamp. This is a city where the dead, for 
> centuries, have had to be buried in above-ground structures because the 
> water is so close to the surface of this sinking city. If coffins are put in 
> the ground, they will rise to the surface as the underground water pushes 
> them up. I have been to these cemeteries personally to witness this. 
> 
> For decades, New Orleans has been told that the city is sinking and that the 
> old levees have to be rebuilt and modernized in order to keep the city from 
> being flooded. Local officials have never done this nor have pleas to 
> Congress for federal help been heeded. Congress has simply never seen fit to 
> do this fully, whether controlled by Democrats or Republicans. 
> 
> "Why did it take five days for Bush to help" has been the mantra voiced 
> constantly by all the "Talking Heads" on TV. Here are the reasons. 
> 
> 1. It is against the law for any President to order troops into a city or 
> across state lines without a request and permission from the Governor of 
> that state. 
> 
> John Armor, a First Amendment lawyer and one of my favorite writers, told 
> me, "Federal law prevents the President from sending in the National Guard 
> until the Governor gives the order. It is little known, but the Commanding 
> General of the National Guard in every state reports to the Governor, not 
> the President, until the Governor says otherwise. US military units (regular 
> Army, not the Guard) cannot be used because of the Posse Comitatus law, 
> until the Guard has been authorized." 
> 
> According to some news sources, the Governor of Louisiana who knew the 
> levees were weak, who knew that the city had been slowly sinking and who 
> knew that a major # 5 hurricane was approaching her city did not call 
> Washington for help. 
> 
> 2. The Mayor of New Orleans did call for evacuation over a loud-speaker, but 
> did nothing to be sure that the police went door-to-door followed by 
> transportation to pick up all those who did not have cars or any ability to 
> leave. There was no other leadership practiced by the mayor as there had 
> been in New York City during 9/11 by Mayor Giuliani. 
> 
> 3. The hurricane veered east and saved New Orleans, Brian Williams announced 
> a week ago and all breathed a sigh of relief until, the levies broke a day 
> or two later allowing the surrounding waters to pour into the city. 
> 
> 4. It was this predicted levee failure which had been ignored for so long 
> that doomed the local people to be held hostage in their attics or on 
> rooftops, not the storm. It was also the failure of the local bureaucrats 
> and local elected leaders to maintain law and order and to have pre-arranged 
> for complete evacuations of the city. It was only after a request went out 
> to the President that troops could be sent in. Can you imagine the anti-Bush 
> media screaming that Bush had invaded Louisiana as he had done in Iraq if he 
> had done this before being asked? I can just imagine The New York Times 
> headlining, "A Repeat of Shock and Awe by Bush!" 
> 
> Bill O'Reilly was the only commentator that I heard who explained this on 
> Fox News. All other network commentators seemed to allow the implication 
> inferred by the viewers that this was all the fault of the Bush 
> Administration. I guess the Far Left also works in mysterious ways! 
> 
> Now you know what my channel is glued to Fox News and why I no longer listen 
> to NBC or its aide-de-camp, MSNBC! 
> 
> 
> 
> ### 
> 
> Lee Ellis is a retired journalist and narrator, formerly with both CBS and 
> Gannett (USA Weekend). He was also a combat veteran of WWII, having fought 
> in the South Pacific invasions. He had the pleasure of interviewing Ronald 
> Reagan as an actor and then later working to help him become Governor of 
> California. At the age of 80, he is keeping busy writing and doing free 
> lance narrations for radio and television. He is an active member of Rotary 
> and the VFW. 
> 
> 
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From: nightwalker.at at gmail.com (Nightwalker)
Date: Tue Sep  6 09:02:07 2005
Subject: [at-l] Another point of view
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> Ah, my friend...speaking of a big wind, what you've done here is referred
to as *pissing into it* on this particular venue.
> (Major waste of time and effort)
> -"Camo"

Agreed. There's no tolerance here for those of us who don't lean to the
left.