In a message dated 1/4/2002 9:25:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, dfaddleton@mindspring.com writes: >I always hike self-contained now so I don't need to rely on anyone else and I>'m trying to teach my kids that, too. >Though I take the cooking gear for them . . . You carry enough food to feed the Pharaoh's army. Sure was good though:>)) Clyde