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- Subject: [pct-l] Re: pct-l-digest V1 #513
- From: HShires@aol.com
- Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 02:00:19 EDT
In a message dated 6/11/98 5:31:13 AM, you wrote:
<<
pct-l-digest Thursday, June 11 1998 Volume 01 : Number 513
In this issue:
[pct-l] Re: pct-l-digest V1 #512
[pct-l] JMT Trail Guide
[pct-l] Richard Watson
Re: [pct-l] Thru-hiker Nth of Kennedy Mdws and conditions Nth of the
Sierras
[pct-l] re: JMT spreadsheet
[pct-l] re: Star's Guide/Mark
[pct-l] Lassen/Burney area report
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Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 23:16:44 -0700
From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg@wcf.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Re: pct-l-digest V1 #512
At 12:00 AM 6/9/98 -0500, Tom wrote:
>2. Elevations around 11,000-11,500' have about 50" of snow and are just
>beginning to melt. I believe that they will melt at an average around 1"
>per day leaving 11,000-11,500' with 20" of snow [as water] on July 4.
>
>3. I predict that 11,000-11,500 will be snow free about July 25.
And Tom, what do you predict for Forester Pass (13,200) and Trail Crest
(13,500)?
Snow free in '99 if you are lucky?
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Dave Gomberg, San Francisco mailto:gomberg@wcf.com
FormMaestro <http://www.wcf.com>
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Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 00:41:30 -0700
From: ECA <echavez@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: [pct-l] JMT Trail Guide
At 12:00 AM 6/8/98 -0500, Allan Gould asked:
>Planning a hike on JMT in Sept (permit-permitting)
>Wondering if there's a handbook for the JMT, or whether
>it's best to just use the relevant sections PCT handbook
The JMT guide book by Thomas Winnett is okay, but I used another
guidebook which I find is much better:
The John Muir Tail by Don & Robera Lowe.
The book describes the JMT North to South. I prefer it to the Winnett
guidebook cause it has good descriptions of side trails, trips and
viewpoints. It also has good pictures, many of which I tried to find on
the JMT. One picture in particular is on page 47, called the "Laughing
Rock" in Evolution Basin. Of the people who I met at Muir Pass, no one
seemed to notice the rock, except for me. The book has good topo maps,
elevation profiles and a stat section in the back. Check it out.
Ernest Chavez
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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 98 18:12 EDT
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Subject: [pct-l] Richard Watson
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I am a journalist in southeastern Connecticut. I am trying to contact Richard
Watson who appears to be the first person to hike the entire PCT in the early
1970s. Does anyone know where he lives now? I appreciate any leads you might
have, i.e. if you know what state he lived in when he hiked, or whatever.
Thanks.
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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:33:57 PDT
From: Les Niles <niles@parc.xerox.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Thru-hiker Nth of Kennedy Mdws and conditions Nth of the
Sierras
On Mon, 08 Jun 1998 10:36:56 -0700 Greg Hummel <ghummel@hydrogenburner.com>
wrote:
>Charlie asked:
>
><Has anyone heard from any thru-hiker who is currently hiking north of
Kennedy
><Meadows? If so, are they continuing thru the Sierras, or did they skip
ahead?
><To where?
>
>I spoke with Martina Osterloh and Brian Dickson last night from Kernville.
>They have reports of serious snow in the Sierras and further north. From
>7,000 feet in the Tehachapis they could see solid snow up around Whitney.
Weekend before last (May 31) I flew along the southern half of the
JMT and got a good look at the snow from 2,000' above the ridges.
"Solid" is a pretty accurate description.
The basin around Guitar Lake is completely covered with snow; the
lake is snow-covered but its outline is visible so some melting
must be starting. Bighorn Plateau is covered with snow. The basin
south of Forrester Pass is solid snow, as are the ridge and basin
on the north side of the pass; the lake on the north side is
covered but its outline is visible. Center Basin is solid snow.
Rae Lakes and the surrounding basin are solid snow. Palisade Basin
is solid snow; Upper Palisade Lake is not visible at all but the
outline of the lower one is. Mather and Muir Passes of course are
completely covered. We didn't see the hut on Muir so it might be
buried or maybe we just missed it.
Seldon Pass and at least the upper part of Bear Creek are
completely covered; I didn't get a good look at the lower section.
Silver Pass, Chief Lake, Squaw Lake, etc. are also solid snow; the
outlines of the lakes are visible. (Edison Lake looked to be
ice-free [Butch?], in contrast to a couple of weeks earlier when it
was still pretty frozen.)
Basically all of the high areas are covered in solid snow pack.
The only sizable areas that weren't totally covered were either
near-vertical or high and flat (like Diamond Mesa and the top of
Whitney) where presumably the wind has blown snow away. I didn't
really look at the lower sections of the trail (like the Woods
Creek bridge) so can't say how low the solid snowpack goes.
Of course this aerial survey doesn't give any info about how deep
the snow is, or what's melting and turning into runoff. But it
sure isn't hikable now! On the other hand, the surface looked
pretty uniformly white so I wouldn't expect there to be a lot of
sun cups to give skis trouble.
(If this kind of info is useful I could probably do the run again
in a week or two when more folks are getting near the high
country.)
-les niles@parc.xerox.com
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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 16:37:00 -0500
From: Ken Marlow <kmarlow@ngs.org>
Subject: [pct-l] re: JMT spreadsheet
Thank you Charlie!
- -Ken Marlow
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:29:00 -0500
From: Ken Marlow <kmarlow@ngs.org>
Subject: [pct-l] re: Star's Guide/Mark
Hi Mark,
Mentioning "each year" for publication of the Star's guide was a bit of an
exhagerration on my part. I haven't looked at the publishing dates of recent
copies. I've got a first editition that's about a quarter of an inch thick
and have seen subsequent releases increase in thickness to around a half
inch or more. The fact that the info in the Winnett guide being scant in the
N>S direction, is a bit of a let-down. I guess I've gotten spoiled by AT
section guides that give a complete discription in both directions. I wonder
what percentage of JMT thru-hikers travel in what direction. Sounds like
this new (?) book, "The John Muir Tail by Don & Robera Lowe", would be a
great addition to a guidebook library!
- -Ken Marlow
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:33:29 -0700
From: Michael Henderson <mikeh@royalrobbins.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Lassen/Burney area report
i'm a bit late with this trip report from memorial w/e, but it's still
relevant, i think.
i spent a night in the thousand lakes wilderness at 7000' on the flanks of
magee peak, just north of lassen and west of hat creek rim. snow is solid,
2ft+ above 6000'. i brought snowshoes, so it was no problem. now, i've
hiked in snow in shorts before, i've hiked in cold rain before, and i've
snowshoed before, but never before have i hiked in shorts, in a cold
driving rain, in snowshoes. the storm started late afternoon, and didn't
let up till about 7am the next morning. but my new integral designs single
wall tent performed brilliantly. did find i need to seam seal the internal
tie-downs. but the fabric kept all water out, and NO condensation.
sometime in the middle of the night, the rain turned to a heavy snow that
would build up on the tent. i thought this might impede the breathability,
but still had no problem. three times i had to knock each side of the tent
to shed the snow, but it shed easily. got about 6" overnight. needless to
say, i had to use snowshoes almost back down to the trail head at 5500'.
but that snow was melting fast.
i drove over to hat creek rim for a short day hike. at 4500-5000' the rim
is completely snow-free, and is blooming beautifully. many of the
questionable watersources mentioned in the guidebook (little reservoirs and
mud holes and such) will probably still be in good shape for the
thruhikers. the view from the rim to the hat creek valley below, lassen to
the south, magee peak and mt burney to the west, was fantastic. couldn't
see shasta with the clouds. watching the cloud shadows roll across the
valley and up the rim was great.
question: when do thruhikers usually pass over the rim? i'm thinking
mid-end of july? there is a trail head with picnic tables that the pct
goes through that might be the perfect place to set up for a weekend with a
cooler of fruit and soda.
also of note: hwy 89 through lassen park was closed, and probably still
is. there is a LOT of snow up there. hwy 44 was open. thruhikers jumping
up to sierra city/belden are still going to have much snow to deal with.
more snow fell the week after i was there. might make more sense to jump
to canada and come south.
i intend to go back this summer and get to the top of magee. if i'm lucky,
the views will surpass those from the rim. i gotta say, i'm so used to
central sierra granite vistas that these cascade volcanic landscapes are
fascinating.
good hiking, everyone...
mike
ke kaahawe AT92 TYT94 PCT2000
mikeh@royalrobbins.com
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