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pct-l-digest          Sunday, March 22 1998          Volume 01 : Number 426

In this issue:

    [pct-l] That drift box is a darn good idea ...
    [pct-l] Re: Superfeet
    [pct-l] Re: 410
    [pct-l] El Nino
    [pct-l] Lightening the pack...
    [pct-l] What's it really like out there?
    Re: [pct-l] That drift box is a darn good idea ...


Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 00:11:06 -0800
From: ECA <echavez@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: [pct-l] That drift box is a darn good idea ...

On Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:46:58 -0600 (CST) radney wrote: ...

>As to the drift box, we sent ourselves a drift box about every other mail=
>pickup.  , t-shirts & shorts so we could wash our clothes, ...

This sure seems like a good idea to me.  A couple of years ago I was
Southbound on the JMT/PCT and stopped in Mammoth Lakes to resupply and
to do my laundry at a public laundromat.  I put everthing in the washer
except my double walled nylon Reebok hiking shorts.  So, as I sat there
in the laundromat, with nothing on except my Reebok hiking shorts, this
'ole cowboy that seemed to be in charge of the place comes over to talk
to me ... say he, "A few weeks ago we had us a drifter come in to town
to this here laundromat plum naked, streaking for fun.  Well now he's
back to see the judge about that incident."  Then the cowboy pulled out
a box of snuff, took dip, looked at me carefully and said, "You aint
quite in that same situation, but your awfully close."  He turned around
and went back to the other end of the room to watch his TV.

I never felt so naked in my life.  As soon as the washer stopped, I
pulled out my damp but almost dry Coolmax t-shirt and put it on.  I
finished my laundry without incident, but having an extra t-shirt and
shorts would have been very useful in a drift box.

Ernest Chavez

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ps: Angels fly because they take themselves lightly ...
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:13:01 -0600 (CST)
From: radney@ix.netcom.com
Subject: [pct-l] Re: Superfeet

Hi Beth, it is great to hear from you again, isn't the frenzy great! =20

On 03/20/98 18:02:06 you wrote:

> I am planning to have two sets that we leapfrog ahead in our drift box. =
The idea is that we can pick up clean clothes, do the laundry, and than=20
send the freshly washed t-shirt and shorts ahead.  Does this work or are=20
the post offices and laundromats miles apart?=20

Your idea for two sets is great, two would definitely be better than one. =
My drift box will now include an extra set for each of us, clean clothes=20
are so wonderful after you have lived in dirty ones forever! Much healthier=
too.  I also sent myself some small boxes of soap in the mail -- you can=20
get change almost anywhere, last year I sent myself lots of quarter, it was=
extra postage weight!

I am taking care of my Mother at her home (she is 90) while my sister takes=
a much needed break until April 9th and my post office/laundromat=20
information is at home so I can't give you any specifics. I can send you a=
list for Southern Cal when I get back.  I believe there were several people=
that posted current conveniences at the various towns since December.  If=20
you made a copy of it, check that and then calculate where you need to send=
the drift box.  A second set of clean clothes could be leapfrogged by=20
themselves also, the PO has a $3.00 priority box that is very reasonable. =
I know the Rice Brothers bought cheap T-shirts in town and wore them until=
they got to another town, washed them or threw them away-- made sense to me=
and saved some postage too.  Pants were another matter and so were socks=20
and town shoes.  It is great to have an alternate pair of shoes but make=20
sure they have good support or walking in them in town my cause you a=20
problems back out on the trail. =20

>What is Superfeet?

Superfeet are support liners for your shoes, like orthodics but definitely=
not that expensive and achieve the same purpose, they provide more ach and=
heel support.  I believe they are around $20-30 a pair but WELL WORTH
the expense.  Take your shoes and socks you will be hiking with and try=20
them out at the store with the Superfeet.  Most shoe stores now carry them=
and so do Wal-Mart and K-Mart.  They can be more expensive at your sports=20
stores. Walt and I are taking alternate days here at Mom's and walking 8=20
miles in 2  1/2 hours, the asphalt is hard on our feet and legs, but=20
without our orthotics/Superfeet, we could be injuring our feet for the=20
trail instead of strengthening ourselves.

I couldn't remember if I mentioned sending catalogues in the drift box or=20
not.  Enjoy the frenzy, it is part of the adventure.  How is the training=20
going and when are you and your husband leaving for Campo? We hope to see=20
you out there.  Our plans are to pick up the trail in Sierra City on June=20

Pat -- Happy Trails Couple=20

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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 08:57:10 -0800
From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg@wcf.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Re: 410

At 08:03 AM 3/21/1998 -0800,  Ken Marlow wrote:
> I'd like to progress to lighter boots but my ankles turn on a=20
>heart beat.   Excercise=20
>to increase the strength in my ankles (with an larger amount of fear of=20
>another twist),=20

Ken, I have distorted your post a bit here but would like to make a
suggestion.  Find somewhere you can walk in sand.   A beach, a long kids
play area, anywhere.   Then start by strolling in lightweight "boots" from
New Balance or ... and increase the intensity with more pack and then
progress to lighter shoes.  This will strengthen both your ankles and your
thighs (oh will it ever!).  I do 6 miles with pack at a whack and I can
sure feel it the next day.  But I am not afraid of hurting myself on the
sand so I can exercise without fear.   And the training is GREAT.   Go for
it.  Strenghten those ankles and you can  probably do the trail in
ultra-light boots.  I don't think in your case I would recommend anything
lighter (like trail running shoes).
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:00:08 -0800
From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg@wcf.com>
Subject: [pct-l] El Nino

At 08:01 AM 3/21/1998 -0800, Blisterfree wrote:
>>A genuine lack of discussion of this very real snow dilemma indicates
>>maybe all interested parties online have jumped ship, and are awaiting a
>>more favorable year to thru-hike this trail.=20

Well, I have waited to see if someone with more knowledge on this subject
than me (which is not a tough requirement!) would jump in, but I haven't
seen much on this point so here goes:

El Nino is WARM RAIN.

WARM RAIN kills snow.  I expect the trail to be exceptionally clear of snow
exceptionally early this year.  This is a GREAT year to plan to do the
trail.  Don't worry about how much snow falls, worry about how fast it
disappears.   You may have a clear trail in mid-June.  Stay tuned and watch
those snow station reports.  If you hear reports of massive flooding in
April and May you will know this scenario is right on track.  =20

I know that in many areas warm rain doesn't do much, but in the steep
Sierras it causes slides and avalanches that move the snow to lower
elevations where it melts over a few days.  You cannot use general info
about flatter areas to predict what will happen in steep areas.  Notice
that even mid-winter shots of Whitney show extensive snow-free areas
because they are so steep (nearly vertical).  You must allow for grade in
analyzing snow pack behavior.
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:34:55 -0800
From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg@wcf.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Lightening the pack...

>>> MSR Whisperlight w/ pump, reflectors 14
>>> 22 oz aluminum bottle w/ duct tape   7

A ZZStove with replacement copper inner walls is only 19 oz.  And no fuel
to carry either.

>>> PUR Hiker    11.6

There is a new plastic filter (cheap, $30).  It seems OK (I bought a couple
to look at).  From Legacy, called Pres-2-Pure as I recall.  I haven't
worked on trying to reduce the weight but I am sure it is possible.

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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 18:41:15 EST
Subject: [pct-l] What's it really like out there?

Greetings '98'ers!  It's almost time to step up to the starting line.  To=
your appetites or just scratch the itch, some thoughts from my '97 trail=

                                   THAT FAR LOOK

                                                                  Words by

1.  It came up in conversation that I'd hiked the PCT.
     I felt anticipation; it meant a lot to me.

     "What's that?" says one, "How nice," another.  Then the subject died.
     They just don't understand our need to hike, I think, surprised.

     Why don't they show some interest?  Perhaps they just don't care.
     Not everyone can see much point in spending time out there.    =20

     Not many share our interest in reaching for this prize. =20
     But then, just for a moment, I see something in their eyes.


     That far look, (for a moment I see) that far look in their eye,
     (And) I know they're out there somewhere on that trail up near the sky.

     Counting stars at night or cutting steps across the snow,
     Pausing long enough to see the cactus-flower's glow.

     I can see they're out there somewhere,=20
     There's that far look in their eye.    =20

2.  If I had the time, that look says, I'd be there today.
     I'd get some boots and pack my pack, and I'd be on my way.

     I'd tramp across the desert, stop in to see Jack Fair.
     Listen to his salty talk and laugh to clear the air.

     Climb into my bag at night and search my starry room.
     Spot a feathery comet beside a crescent moon.

     Watch great Cygnus chase Aquila down the Milky Way,
     Dodging Sagittarius' arrow, till the break of day.

3.  If I had the strength, that look says, I'd go on that hike,
     Along the LA aquaduct, into the snowbound heights.

     Meet Edward, Duke of Gorp from York, and Dale from New Zealand,
     Walk with Justin and Katrina, Andyman and Susan.

     Travel fast, travel light, hope for decent weather,
     Scale walls of rock and ice, Glen and Muir and Mather.

     Start out early on the trail to stretch the daylight hours.
     Drink pure water, breathe fresh air, stop to smell the flowers.

4.  If I had the will, that look says, I could find the time.
     I'd be strong enough, I know, to do the Whitney climb.

     See this country, south to north, the mountains, lakes and flowers.
     Listen to the rushing streams, gaze up at granite towers.

     Smell the scent of Jeffrey Pine, hear voices in night wind.
     Stand with friends at trail's end and talk it through again.

     I must take this chance I have to hike along the Crest,
     From Campo up to Manning Park, then take my well-earned rest.  =20
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:17:28 EST
Subject: Re: [pct-l] That drift box is a darn good idea ...

Earnest --

     My son and I hit that same laundromat in Mammoth Lakes.  Had to be,
because we also went a round with the ole cowboy!  He was cool but his sense
of humor was drier than your coolmax shirt.  Thanks for reminding us of yet
another true trail adventure!   =20

     Your note does reinforce my suspicion that hikers can be less "at risk"
on the trail than in town.     =20
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