[BULK] - Re: [pct-l] Why I boycotted the ADZPCTKO; Thoughts... ; Let's pull it together people

[msaenz at mve-architects.com (Mike Saenz)]

On that note, I'd like to offer:

Yes, it's ALL about supporting the thru-hikers. It's why Donna does her
thing. It's why Greg and the other organizers do their thing.
Its why the water cachers do their thing. It's why AsABat does his
thing.

It gives us section hikers and weekend warriors a chance to do anything
to support the thru-hikers and feel a part of the PCT community.

If the Thru-hikers didn't have the support of non-thru hikers, it'd be
1977 all over again and less people would be able to thru-hike!



I'm intrigued by the idea of and organized shuttling effort to transport
front of the pack thru-hikers from where they may be to ADZ and back to
where they need to get on to the trail. I think I enjoyed giving a ride
to two thru-hikers back to Idyllwild more than they needed the ride!
Just my own little way of providing support. But if it allows early
starters and strong hikers to get back to ADZ to provide first hand
knowledge of what's ahead, and helps spread out the wave... This sounds
like a no-brainer. And it's the only productive idea that addresses
Donna's concern I've heard all day.




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-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
[mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Carl
Siechert
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:08 PM
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Cc: enyapjr@adelphia.net
Subject: [BULK] - Re: [pct-l] Why I boycotted the ADZPCTKO; Thoughts...
; Let's pull it together people

Greg doesn't speak for all ADZ organizers when he says "yawn." The
concerns that Donna has raised are worth exploring, and (after we catch
our breath from the event just completed) we will do that. As she has
mentioned, she raised the issue last year, and we have take some steps
to mitigate the problem; I think we can do more.

I'd also like to respond to the perceived slight against non-thru hikers
felt by enyapjr: We (and I think I'm speaking for all the ADZ organizers
here) have nothing against non-thru hikers and, indeed, most of the
organizers have not yet thru-hiked the PCT. But from the very beginning,
current-year thru-hikers have been the entire focus of the ADZPCTKO. The
other attendees are incidental to ADZ, as far as we're concerned. Every
decision we make regarding ADZ is filtered through this question: Does
this improve the thru-hikers' experience?

Btw, don't expect a response from Greg anytime soon, as he'll be out of
town for the next week or so. (Based on the number of people he's
managed to piss off today, that might be a good thing! <g>)

Cheers,
Carl
ADZPCTKO co-conspirator

On 4/26/05, enyapjr@adelphia.net <enyapjr@adelphia.net> wrote:
> Sad to say, but I am greatly disappointed regarding this thread and 
> its many offshoots!  Some ideas regarding the growth problem have been

> brought forward that are worthy of DISCUSSION.  But apparently it is 
> not worthy enough to some ("Yawn" and "YAWN")...
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