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[pct-l] Independent Hiking & Trail Angels
- Subject: [pct-l] Independent Hiking & Trail Angels
- From: metam01 at earthlink.net (Monty Tam)
- Date: Tue Dec 21 11:32:08 2004
Next time at Echo Lake it's straight to Southshore Inn. They are extremely
hiker friendly. EVERYTHING including inexpensive big grocery store, big
name casinos with AYCE buffets, and an outfitter are an easy walk. The
owner, Ziggy, does your laundry. There's usually a number to call on the
board there. Ziggy (Southshore inn) drives 26 miles uphill to pick you up
and gives hikers a discount on rooms. On the weekends, however, he needs
to charge more. Even with a discount, and he warns you, it's still high.
He gives you a ride way uphill back to the trail head.
Wonderful people, comfortable in all ways, and a great thru-hiker
experience.
One I'm going to repeat in 2005.
Warner Springs Monty
VVR---------------------------------------- find the secret hiker box.
Free bed. Bring lots of cash to resupply or eat. Very nice
people.........expensive but no frills.
Warner Springs Monty
> [Original Message]
> From: Joseph Niemiec <whitethunder10@hotmail.com>
> To: <PCT@DelNorteResort.Com>; <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Date: 12/21/2004 8:53:20 AM
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] Independent Hiking & Trail Angels
>
> I have to admit though, $5 at Echo lake to post a message to another
hiker
> on their outdoor pegboard? Weak.
>
> And VVR - reselling hiker box food and used insoles? double weak...
>
> Just remember that in general these rules apply but their are the the
places
> looking to rip you off too!
> Especially VVR...
>
> Trail Angels - Awesome! (unweak)
>
> Mouse
>
> >From: "PCT List" <PCT@DelNorteResort.Com>
> >To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> >Subject: [pct-l] Independent Hiking & Trail Angels
> >Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:27:48 -0800
> >
> >2 points I want to make up front:
> >
> >* Your thru-hike is an INDEPENDENT undertaking.
> >
> >* Gathering a list of trail angels names & phone numbers from
Campo
> to Manning,
> >should not be an integral part of pre-hike planning.
> >
> >Last summer I was forced to read journals instead of hiking, by my
own
> decision.
> >Of course, they were ALL entertaining. :) One shameless CDT journal I
> read briefly should
> >have been named, "Leeching from Glacier to Gila: a thru-hikers
> guide".
> >
> >IMHO, "a thru-hike is an independent venture to be shared with
> others, not for others
> >to endure". Others may not share your enthusiasm for YOUR hike.
> >
> >I've heard a number of complaints about the PO in Echo Lake. Here's a
> tip: plan your
> >visit around their business hours, not what's convenient for YOUR
hike.
> Be patient with
> >them, YOUR needs do not come first. It's a busy place, they have
other
> customers as
> >well. Knocking on PO doors (or any business) after hours is poor
> planning on your part,
> >sets a very bad precedent and reflects very badly on the entire
hiking
> community.
> >
> >Trail Angels and the 'magic' they provide are truly a luxury. They
are
> instigators of
> >"timely good fortune".
> >
> >You have no right to ask of others what you are capable of obtaining
> yourself. Trail Angels
> >are not provided as a convenience with your permit. If you abuse this
> priveledge, it will
> >disappear. If you ask a stranger for help, doesn't it seem logical to
> exhaust all of your
> >options first?
> >
> >When you think of Trail Angels, you have to think of the Saufley's.
Had
> I NOT camped on
> >their lawn, had I NOT let Donna do my laundry, I would have felt
guilty,
> like I was disrespecting
> >a long held tradition. :) With that said, to see some people stay for
> days was beyond my
> >comprehension. Maybe everyone is ok with that, but I didn't get it
(my
> issues).
> >
> >It's YOUR hike. Before you burden someone with your adventure, ask
> yourself if this is really necessary.
> >
> >One final stone to throw. How about a thru-hiker Code of Conduct? A
list
> of thou shall and thou shall nots?
> >Something everyone can carry with them along the trail....assuming
it's
> not to, um, heavy. ;)
> >
> >Scott
> >
> >
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