[pct-l] bicycles

[judson at jeffnet.org (Judson Brown)]

Great reasons. The PCT was partly designed as an equestrian trail. Mountain
bikers, who tend to ride as fast as their abilities allow, do not mix well
with 1,000 lb., slow-moving animals. And demanding courtesy from riders just
does not work all the time. With the improvement in brakes and shocks,
mountain bikes and their riders are capable of descending steep trails at
much faster speeds than they used to even a decade ago.

And if you seriously think that mountain bikes don't cause tread damage, you
obviously haven't not spent much time on trails, or you have a very
different idea of what constitutes "undue treadwear". Most of the "hiking"
trails in and around Ashland have been decimated by mountain bikes, which
have left behind deep ruts and shortcutted switchbacks. And I cannot begin
to count the number of times I have been run off the trail.

There are plenty of trails available to bikers. They don't need this one,
too.

Judson
Ashland, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
[mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net]On Behalf Of Kraig Mottar
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 4:30 PM
To: Steve Courtway; pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: Re: Re: [pct-l] bicycles


I still fail to  see any good reason to prohibit non-motorized bicycles.
Aside from demanding courtesy from riders.

I doubt unmotorized bicycles would cause undue treadwear.

Kraig

> From: "Steve Courtway" <scourtway@bpa-arch.com>
> Date: 2004/12/02 Thu PM 04:13:39 PST
> To: "Kraig Mottar" <kraig.mottar@verizon.net>,
<pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Subject: Re: Re: [pct-l] bicycles
>
> yes yes yes we know what you're talking about.  There is good reason in
that
> it keeps the trail free of bicycles hhahaha.  Bicycles cause undue
> treadwear, can be dangerous when ridden like alot of mountain bikers ride,
> and generally don't belong on a scenic trail intended solely for quiet
foot
> and hoof traffic.  I have ridden the san felipe hills sobo twice in the
> past; I thought the public domain BLM land was just that, public domain -
> but have since changed my ways and wouldn't consider it today.
>
> Reformed scofflaw,
> s.c.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kraig Mottar" <kraig.mottar@verizon.net>
> To: "Steve Courtway" <scourtway@bpa-arch.com>;
> <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: [pct-l] bicycles
>
>
> > And I suppose there is a good reason for this which escapes me...
> >
> > Did I mention I was referring to non-motorized bicycles, NOT motorcycles
> or anything with a motor, carberators, or gasoline?
> >
> > Kraig
> >
> > > From: "Steve Courtway" <scourtway@bpa-arch.com>
> > > Date: 2004/12/02 Thu PM 02:07:43 PST
> > > To: "Kraig Mottar" <kraig.mottar@verizon.net>,
> <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> > > Subject: Re: [pct-l] bicycles
> > >
> > > federal law prohibits riding bikes on the PCT.
> > >
> > > that said.....
> > >
> > > heh heh,
> > > s.c.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Kraig Mottar" <kraig.mottar@verizon.net>
> > > To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:21 PM
> > > Subject: [pct-l] bicycles
> > >
> > >
> > > > Can bicycles such as non-motorized mountain bikes be ridden of the
> PCT?
> > > >
> > > >
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