[pct-l] Re: MSR Dromlite bags

[whitethunder10 at hotmail.com (Joseph Niemiec)]

Ok well it rained that day too.  But if  a serious rain comes you are gonna 
bust out your tent anyway.  So kids, gather round,  no, a little closer. OK 
that's good.   Take rainpants only if they are the go-lite reed pants - 5 oz 
for the large (waterproof and breatheable)  but seriously, if I did it again 
I wouldn't take any rain pants and just have wet legs for a half day.

I didn't have any rain pants in Washingtoon this year and it was pouring 
cold rain for 4 days.  (I let buttercup use mine).  I was cold yeah, but it 
really wasn't that bad.  Again the long underwear bottoms kept me fine.

On second thought, don't wear any pants either.  that's right naked is the 
way to go. " this year on hike naked day", Leprechaun walked naked past a 
group of boyscouts in nothin but his skivies.. then when he got to town 
everyone was walking up to him telling him about the naked guy in the woods. 
  His only reply? "that was me"

Truth be told- you don't even need pants to be happy on the trail.  Rain 
pant bottoms?  Well, really don't need those for CA or OR.

>From: "Cathy" <tahoe.cat@verizon.net>
>To: "Joseph Niemiec" <whitethunder10@hotmail.com>
>CC: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Re: MSR Dromlite bags
>Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:24:31 -0700
>
>Howdy    About the "never rains is Southern California"  on 
April 3rd of
>this year my grandson and I did the section from the monument on hwy S-1 
to
>Scissors Crossing, one mile out it started to rain, within another hour 
we
>were drenched. I had my "North Face venture jacket but no pants. My 
legs and
>my feet were soaked. We eventually were so wet that we just started
>laughing, so we squished our way to my truck. It rained for 14 of the 16
>miles that we did that day. Unbelievable but true      Ground Pounder 
Bill
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joseph Niemiec" <whitethunder10@hotmail.com>
>To: <radpin@gmail.com>; <canuck013@yahoo.com>
>Cc: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
>Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 8:27 PM
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Re: MSR Dromlite bags
>
>
> > Dudes,
> >
> > Dromlite bags? Nalgene bottles?  What?  are you guys thu-hikers?
> >
> > Not to be a jerk, and I guess I didn't see the original question 
asked,
>but
> > if the words platypus or dromlite ever come up - ALWAYS circle 
platypus.
> >
> > What a huge waste of weight and anything rubber gets gross as 
hell!
> > Seriously now - if this applies to a thu-hike, gatorade bottles 
and
>platypus
> > bags are it.  I just finished the trail 18 days ago and used the 
same
>platy
> > the whole way.  Yes others have used the hydration system and yes 
it did
> > leak after 700 miles but that was just at the seal and you can 
just order
>a
> > new seal after it does that.
> >
> > and please don't buy a altimeter watch.. the alarms are too quiet 
and
>about
> > 50 million people on the trail have them so you just save the 200 
bones
>and
> > ask the guy next to you what the altitude is if you really have to 
know.
> > (sorry just had to throw that in there)
> >
> > Remember, weight is everything.  You need so much less than you 
think you
> > do.
> >
> > And don't even take rainpants along for ca it never rains... But 
it was
>cold
> > a couple of times but you will have long underwear anyway so no 
biggie.
> > (sorry once more)
> >
> > Walk on,
> >
> > Mouse
> >
> > >From: Eric <radpin@gmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: Eric <radpin@gmail.com>
> > >To: Patrick Shannon <canuck013@yahoo.com>
> > >CC: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> > >Subject: Re: [pct-l] Re: MSR Dromlite bags
> > >Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:04:39 -0700
> > >
> > >Patrick;
> > >
> > >That's very interesting to hear, and I appreciate the 
information for
> > >sure. I have already gone out and purchased an MSR 4 litre 
Dromlite
> > >bag and hydration kit at REI, so I guess we'll see how it 
fars. As I'm
> > >in Southern California, and water is scarce, I'll make 
sure to keep
> > >spare Nalgene bottles until (or if) I get comfortable with 
the
> > >Dromlite bag.
> > >
> > >Worst case scenario is that I figure out it doesn't work 
so well, and
> > >take advantage of REI's 100% satisfaction deal, and go 
with a
> > >platypus.
> > >
> > >But this makes one person who thought it was terrific, and 
one person
> > >who thought it was terrible. So in a few months I'll chime 
in to see
> > >which one I am, I suppose.
> > >
> > >Eric
> > >
> > >
> > >On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 17:52:35 -0700 (PDT), Patrick Shannon
> > ><canuck013@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Eric,
> > > >
> > > > I started my 2003 PCT hike with a 4-liter 
Dromlite bag and I
>have
> > some VERY strong feelings from my experience with this product on 
that
>hike.
> > It is definitely NOT an upgrade. You are probably right as far as
>puncturing
> > holes in them, but the cap to the bag leaks like crazy. It just 
doesnt get
>a
> > water tight seal no matter how tight you turn it. The hydration 
system
> > attachment also sprung leaks and fell apart fairly quickly. My 
last straw
> > for this item was when the bottom seal somehow sprung a leak on 
the Hat
> > Creek Rim and I did the last half of that waterless stretch 
waterless in
> > 100-degree heat. Nope, wasn't too happy with my water bladder 
then. I
>picked
> > up a Platypus bladder the next chance I got and hiked the rest of 
the way
> > with it without a problem. Only my opinions, but I feel pretty 
strongly
> > about this product. Hope this helps.
> > > >
> > > > The Northerner
> > > >
> > > >
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