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[BULK] - Re: [pct-l] Multiuse Gear

"This is the foundation of all that is technologically possible."

I don't know about that...

Here's an idea that's been rattling around my head for a few months:

Question to Six Moons, Gossamer Gear, et. al.:

How feasible would a combo pack/tent be?
Both are fabric. There's enough fabric in a tarp or tarp tent that could
be cleverly folded and secured with zips and compression straps to
convert into a pack, then, when you've found that last flat spot at
sunset, you could unload it and unzip/unstrap it, fold it out and pitch
it up with your trekking poles! The floor of a tarp tent could be of
sturdy enough fabric to make up the external panels of the pack.

What do you all think? Can it be done?

p.s. This will be MY idea for the Annual Great Pacific Long Distance
Hiking Gadget and Invention Revue at next ADZPCTKO!

M i c h a e l   S a e n z
McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
[mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Olson
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 10:05 PM
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: [BULK] - Re: [pct-l] Multiuse Gear

The below can be seen to be too complicatedl.   The base pack involves
items; the pack, the sleeping quilt, the tent, and the sleeping pad...

This is the foundation of all that is technologically possible. Six
for these four items is the current state of the art.  Sure there are
freaques who can get it down to four pounds.  But they define the
self-flagellating end of the continuum.

The comfort end involves a fully self-enclosed tent, a pad, and a
quilt  that in the tent, on the sleeping pad, is way too warm...

The self-sufficient solo hiker keeps his/her feet outside.  That's the
bottom line for long distance competence.  If you haven't already
you not only like, but truly love, sleeping with your feet outside the
sleeping quilt, you need to continue to work out... :0)

long distance hiking is individual - yes...  However, the basic six
each of us, you and "I" decide are  necessary, is a common frame for
discussion....  What do you think????

Six pounds.  That's the base.  No more, no less...

Jeffrey, waiting for the onslaught....:0)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Moak" <rmoak@sixmoondesigns.com>
To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 8:48 AM
Subject: [pct-l] Multiuse Gear

> Someone wants to know about the concept of multiple-use gear. So I
> I'd toss out a few potential items and look at how they can be used
> multiple purposes. They may or may not be what you carry, but you can
> the analogy to your own gear. Simply start looking at each item of
> ask yourself how can I use it in multiple ways. If you begin to
> duplications you can find ways to reduce your gear. You may also
> you need to change your gear over time in order take advantage of
> multiple-use. For example if your tent doesn't work with a hiking
> may want to upgrade to one that does.
> Item -  Uses / Day Use / Night Use / Camp Use / Rest stop. / Town Use
> -----------
> Hiking Pole - 4 / Obvious / Tent or tarp pole / Digging Cat holes to
> eliminate trowel. / Hold up pack to use as chair /
> Sleeping Pad - 4 / Use as primary suspension of pack / Sleep on / Sit
> Layout and rest on /
> Hiking Shoes (lightweight Breathable) - / Hiking & stream crossing /
> Foundation for pillow if set correctly / camp shoes /
> Food bag with food - 2 / NA / Use as pillow / NA / NA / NA
> Poncho - 4 / Rain Gear / Ground cloth or tarp / NA / NA / NA
> Rain Gear - 3 / Rain or wind protection / Partial VB liner for cold
> Rain-wind / Rain-wind / worn while doing laundry
> Sleeping Bag - 3 / NA / Sleeping / Pot Cozy or extra insulation layer
/ NA
> NA
> Backpack - 4 / Carry your gear / Extra padding and insulation when
> short pads / Chair / Chair / Day pack
> These are just a few brainteasers that will hopefully stimulate your
> thoughts on how to make your gear more productive. You can have lots
> endlessly parsing your gear list to maximize your packs efficiency.
> Have fun,
> -- Fallingwater
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