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- Subject: [pct-l] Fire near Crater Lake
- From: scottie.wujcik at hp.com (Wujcik, Scott A)
- Date: Mon Aug 16 09:07:57 2004
Just wanted to advise people that the PCT is closed near and around
Crater Lake due to lightning induced forest fires. I realize the thru
hikers are well past this point but some may be planning a section hike
or could cause problems for the 2005 class of hikers.
Scottie
3Lungs.
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Today's Topics:
1. The North Face Hightail 900 (dmd@email.arizona.edu)
2. Sealing Machines (Hiker97@aol.com)
3. US - Canada Border (James LaJocies)
4. RE: US - Canada Border (Eric Lee (GAMES))
5. RE: US - Canada Border (Eric Lee (GAMES))
6. Re: Sealing Machines (Steve Sergeant)
7. Re: Sealing Machines (Jeff Moorehead)
8. Snow Season this year in N Cascades? (Rachele & Dan Rice)
9. RE: after the hike (Griffith, Paul C)
10. RE: after the hike (Bighummel@aol.com)
11. Don't be a litter bug :-) (Paul Magnanti)
12. US - Canada Border (Paul Magnanti)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:20:52 -0700
From: dmd@email.arizona.edu
Subject: [pct-l] The North Face Hightail 900
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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Hello all~
I have very recently been afforded an opportunity to pick up a brand new
North
Face Hightail 900 sleeping bag for close to half price. Normally I
would jump
all over this situation and get it, but as always, I decided I should
consult
those who know best. I have never heard anything in relation to North
Face
sleeping systems and I was hoping I could get some feedback. Its 900
fill down
and 1 lb. 13 oz. It seems like everything I would want from the
Feathered
Friends bag I was going to purchase. Thank you for your time and
patience.
Wildcat Dave
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 17:57:41 EDT
From: Hiker97@aol.com
Subject: [pct-l] Sealing Machines
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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What is everyone's opinion about those sealer/vacuum machines for bags
that
you can buy at SAMs and other stores. I saw a demo today and it looks
interesting for backpacking foods. But I have heard that for resupply
boxes they will
leak eventually. May be they would be good for general backpacking and
not
for long term use. I think the kit at SAMs was $100 and the extra bags
box was
$30. Probably the best buy around. Thanks, Switchback
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 14:58:10 -0700
From: James LaJocies <captain@eskimo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] US - Canada Border
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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Those of you who have crossed the US - Canada border my question is
this:
Is there a defined monument, sign or maybe a small clear cut on the US -
Canada border? Is there something there that tells you that you have
crossed into Canada or the USA?
--
My mind not only wanders; sometimes it leaves completely.
Visit James @ http://www.eskimo.com/~captain
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 15:26:48 -0700
From: "Eric Lee (GAMES)" <elee@microsoft.com>
Subject: RE: [pct-l] US - Canada Border
To: "James LaJocies" <captain@eskimo.com>,
<pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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James wrote:
>
Those of you who have crossed the US - Canada border my question is
this:
Is there a defined monument, sign or maybe a small clear cut on the US -
Canada border? Is there something there that tells you that you have
crossed into Canada or the USA?
>
Yup, all of the above. For one of many pictures, see
http://www.trailjournals.com/photos.cfm?id=37976 (I just grabbed one at
random).
Eric
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 15:28:03 -0700
From: "Eric Lee (GAMES)" <elee@microsoft.com>
Subject: RE: [pct-l] US - Canada Border
To: "Eric Lee (GAMES)" <elee@microsoft.com>, "James LaJocies"
<captain@eskimo.com>, <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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Er, here's a slightly better picture:
http://www.trailjournals.com/photos.cfm?id=37978
Eric
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Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 3:27 PM
To: 'James LaJocies'; pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: RE: [pct-l] US - Canada Border
James wrote:
>
Those of you who have crossed the US - Canada border my question is
this:
Is there a defined monument, sign or maybe a small clear cut on the US -
Canada border? Is there something there that tells you that you have
crossed into Canada or the USA?
>
Yup, all of the above. For one of many pictures, see
http://www.trailjournals.com/photos.cfm?id=37976 (I just grabbed one at
random).
Eric
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 15:30:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Steve Sergeant" <stevesgt@effable.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Sealing Machines
To: <Hiker97@aol.com>
Cc: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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Hiker97@aol.com typed:
> What is everyone's opinion about those sealer/vacuum machines for bags
> that you can buy at SAMs and other stores.
There are basically two types at the consumer level: Those that just
seal,
and those that vacuum and seal.
> I saw a demo today and it looks interesting for backpacking foods.
I rely heavily on mine for packing food and supplies. It's far better
than
taking dozens of zipper bags. Stuff keeps a lot longer in the
vacuum-sealed bags, especially relatively fresh stuff like breads &
tortillas, or the more hydrophilic dried stuff like tomato sauce or
fish.
> But I have heard that for resupply boxes they will leak eventually.
I've found that there's a techniques for making a good seal: You have
to
keep the pressure on the seam after the heat is off for about twice as
long as you heated it. If you just release the pressure when the
heating
cycle is done, the bag will leak.
> May be they would be good
> for general backpacking and not for long term use. I think the kit
at
> SAMs was $100 and the extra bags box was $30. Probably the best buy
> around. Thanks, Switchback
It's not a best buy if it doesn't work.
After carefully researching the subject and trying a few out from places
that had no-questions-asked return policies, I bought the Deni Magic Vac
Model 1750:
< http://www.deni.com/magicvac.htm >
The bags come on rolls. The rolls cost about $10 each. Or you can buy
pre-made bags, but that is a less versatile option.
Undoubtedly, there are other manufacturers and models that are either
cheaper, or work just about as well.
I've pulled dehydrated meals out of the freezer after a year, mailed
them
off to a resupply stop, and have enjoyed food as good as when I first
sealed it.
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 15:34:32 -0700
From: "Jeff Moorehead" <jeffmoorehead1@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Sealing Machines
To: <Hiker97@aol.com>, <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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I think the real expensive ones ($$?) produce a hermetic seal and can
greatly extend the shelf life of foods-- especially dehydrated foods. I
am
also in the market but haven't done the research so I'll just repeat
your
general query here.
Along similar lines, I am pretty sure I'll be investing in both a
quality
dehydrator and one of those vacuum-seal machines. I would be interested
in
whether anyone has set up a system, specifically to dry and seal their
backpacking pantry items. hat do you think?-- well worth the investment
of
money and time?
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From: <Hiker97@aol.com>
To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 2:57 PM
Subject: [pct-l] Sealing Machines
> What is everyone's opinion about those sealer/vacuum machines for bags
that
> you can buy at SAMs and other stores. I saw a demo today and it looks
> interesting for backpacking foods. But I have heard that for resupply
boxes they will
> leak eventually. May be they would be good for general backpacking
and
not
> for long term use. I think the kit at SAMs was $100 and the extra
bags
box was
> $30. Probably the best buy around. Thanks, Switchback
>
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 17:22:23 -0700
From: "Rachele & Dan Rice" <r1ce@msn.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Snow Season this year in N Cascades?
To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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Has anyone heard if the snow season is expected to start early this year
in
the N Cascades, or late, or "right on time" ? If anyone is local to the
area or has heard anything, the info would be much appreciated.
Rachele "Bush Whacker"
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 08:44:11 -0700
From: "Griffith, Paul C" <Paul.C.Griffith@bankofamerica.com>
Subject: [pct-l] RE: after the hike
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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As people close in on the Canadian border, they often wonder what to do
after the hike. Five years ago, at 89, Doris Haddock walked across the
country crusading for campaign finance reform, trudging through the
Mojave Desert, Texas heat and the Appalachians in the thick of winter to
reach Washington after 3,200 miles and 14 months. Now she's running for
the Senate in New Hampshire by hiking the state. www.grannyd.com. Or, we
could just stay in Canada.
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Today's Topics:
1. Cell Signal on WA-PCT? (Rachele & Dan Rice)
2. Re: Happy to announce... (Terra Rose Sullivan)
3. BACK PACKING PARTNER WANTED (Mscrigg@aol.com)
4. RE: Cell Signal on WA-PCT? (Eric Lee (GAMES))
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 23:18:40 -0700
From: "Rachele & Dan Rice" <r1ce@msn.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Cell Signal on WA-PCT?
To: "pct-l" <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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Has anyone been able to get mobile phone reception (roaming or
otherwise)
along the PCT in Washington? I'd be curious to know if anyone has, and
if
so, what service provider they were using.
Thanks,
"Bush Whacker" Rachele
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 23:28:33 -0700
From: Terra Rose Sullivan <terra@stalecoffee.org>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Happy to announce...
To: PCT listserv <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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Congrats! Let us know when you have the dates and show times... I would
love to see the film and will certainly represent in O-town.
Terra Sullivan
Future ('05) PCT-er/film buff/listserv lurker/proud Olympian
On Aug 9, 2004, at 3:54 PM, Scott Herriott wrote:
> ...that the documentary "Walk" I shot last year just
> got accepted into the Malibu Film Festival along with
> the Olympia Film Festival up in Washington. Special
> thanks again to all on this list who took part and
> made it such a joy to shoot... including Strider,
> Donna Saufley, Fallingwater, Mad Monte, Roy Robinson,
> Walking Larry, the Davisons (and their llama) and
> anyone else I may be forgetting. Copies are still
> available for $15 at www.walkpct.com.
>
>
> Thanks again, Squatch
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 15:01:49 EDT
From: Mscrigg@aol.com
Subject: [pct-l] BACK PACKING PARTNER WANTED
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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I AM LOOKING FOR A BACKPACKING PARTNER WITH SIMULAR INTERESTS TO HIKE
WITH....IAM 46 YEARS OLD ,OBSESSED WITH WILD LIFE AND THE OUTDOORS I
HAVE A MASTER
FALCONERS LICENCE AND HAVE TRAINED AND FLOWN HAWKS AND FALCONS FOR MANY
YEARS.....I AM OBSESSED WITH ALL WILD LIFE AND JUST ABOUT ANY THING
,THAT HAS ANY
THING TO DO WITH WILDERNESS AND WILD LIFE. I AM CONSIDERING HIKING
PORTIONS
OF THE J.M.T. ......I HAVE SPENT SOME TIME DOING GOS HAHK SURVEYS IN THE
SEIRRAS AND PORTIONS OF NEVADA. I AM NOT VERY GOOD AT ORGANISING THINGS
THAT
INVOLVE OTHER PEOPLE ,HOWEVER I WOULD LIKE TO FIND A PARTNER TO HIKE
WITH .IF YOU
ARE INTERESTED THEN CONTACT ME
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:30:28 -0700
From: "Eric Lee (GAMES)" <elee@microsoft.com>
Subject: RE: [pct-l] Cell Signal on WA-PCT?
To: "Rachele & Dan Rice" <r1ce@msn.com>, "pct-l"
<pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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Rachele wrote:
>
Has anyone been able to get mobile phone reception (roaming or
otherwise)
along the PCT in Washington? I'd be curious to know if anyone has, and
if
so, what service provider they were using.
>
You'll be able to get cell service in a few spots along the trail,
mostly close to road crossings, but the vast majority of the time you
won't have any service. It'll probably work to contact family every few
days, but don't count on it as an emergency life-saving device.
Eric
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 12:09:55 EDT
From: Bighummel@aol.com
Subject: [pct-l] RE: after the hike
To: Paul.C.Griffith@bankofamerica.com, pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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Upon reaching Stehekin in 1977, my hiking partner, Paul Hacker, and I
wrote
our mixed feelings into the register there. Meadow Ed retrieved the old
registers a few years ago and the Teutonic Knight copied all of the old
messages
from '77 and gave them to us for our 25 year reunion. I would LOVE to
have the
records from the other numerous trail registers from that year. Anyone
have
any idea where they are?
Here's my and Paul's entries;
"HOT DAMN! H&H Inc. (Hummel and Hacker) are here and ony 6 days to go!
I'm
glad and sad it is all coming to an end. A last farewell to all of you
border
to border's. Unfortunates, Bombers, Backtrackers, Trailblazers, Kelty
Kids,
and all of you I never even met. I hope all is well for all. 9 days of
rain
straight!" Strider
"It is with mixed feelings that I approach the end of this trip. All
the
happiness and depressions of a lifetime compressed in 6 months. 'It was
the
worst of times and it was the best of times.' My faith in humanity is
restored,
we can make it. Good luck to all, wish you all success in any future
endeavors." Hacker
This is written on the old Trail Registers put out by Camp Research with
an
address of P.O. Box 1907, Santa Ana, CA 92702. On the bottom of the
page it
says, "Join the PACIFIC CREST CLUB - For FREE information, send
self-addressed,
stamped envelope to: Pacific Crest Club, P O Box 1907, Santa Ana, CA
92702"
Note that the two addresses are the same. The PC Club was started by
Warren
Rogers and eventually morphed into the PCTA. Warren organized and led
the
YMCA relays that layed out the early proposed "permanent" route of the
trail way
back in the 1930's. He and Clinton Clarke were the early dreamers and
champions that built the foundation upon which all of you now hike.
Somewhere on
the trail there should be something honoring this heritage, IMHO.
Greg "Strider" Hummel
P.S. Oh, yes, after the hike; Hacker and I both became geologists due
to
the inspiration and curiosity collected on our hike and are continuing
to find
ways to give back to the trail community, just as so many of you past
thru-hikers are doing.
In a message dated 8/13/2004 8:46:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
Paul.C.Griffith@bankofamerica.com writes:
As people close in on the Canadian border, they often wonder what to do
after
the hike. Five years ago, at 89, Doris Haddock walked across the country
crusading for campaign finance reform, trudging through the Mojave
Desert, Texas
heat and the Appalachians in the thick of winter to reach Washington
after
3,200 miles and 14 months. Now she's running for the Senate in New
Hampshire by
hiking the state. www.grannyd.com. Or, we could just stay in Canada.
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:11:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Magnanti <pmags@yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Don't be a litter bug :-)
To: pct-l@backcountry.net
Message-ID: <20040813161111.28787.qmail@web52710.mail.yahoo.com>
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Saw this on AT-L...thought it may be of interest to
PCT-L as well! --Mags
Yosemite National Park (CA)
Weapons Arrest in West Yosemite
On Thursday evening, August 5th, rangers received a
message to be on the lookout for a vehicle and a man
with a rifle who was "hunting people" in the
Stanislaus National Forest west of the park.
The unoccupied vehicle was found in west Yosemite
Valley and kept under observation. Within an hour, two
men returned and rangers questioned them about
weapons. The men admitted that there was a loaded
rifle in the vehicle. Jeremy Dorosin, 46, of Pinole,
California, claimed ownership of the rifle.
The other man with him provided information
corroborating the initial Forest Service report,
saying that his friend was "losing it" and had
been making people pick up litter at gunpoint in a
national forest campground. Dorosin was arrested for
possession of the loaded weapon in the vehicle, and
the rifle was seized.
http://data2.itc.nps.gov/morningreport/morningreportold.cfm?date=08%2F11
%2F2004
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The true harvest of my life is intangible.... a little stardust caught,
a portion of the rainbow I have clutched
--Thoreau
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:21:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Magnanti <pmags@yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] US - Canada Border
To: pct-l@backcountry.net
Message-ID: <20040813162159.17009.qmail@web52705.mail.yahoo.com>
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You will see a clear cut and a "Welcome to Canada
Sign" on the Manning Park side of the PCT. All
distance mysteriously become kilometers, too. :-)
Some pics at the border area:
http://gallery.backcountry.net/pmagspct02/amx
--The monument
http://gallery.backcountry.net/pmagspct02/amy
--Welcome to Canada sign
http://gallery.backcountry.net/pmagspct02/amz
--Good view of both monuments and the clear-cut
And an excerpt from my journal upon reaching this
border:
Thu Sept 12 Castle Creek 2651.7 miles
My last night on the trail is being spent in Canada.
At 5:25 PM, reached the Canadian border. Did not
expect to be in Canada today, but with less than four
miles to go until the border when it was only 4:30 PM,
decided to make "a run for the border". At a pace of
four MPH, almost literally! Getting to the border was
a bit of a surprise. Due to our pace, we arrived at
the monument much earlier than expected. My words
upon reaching the monument? "Oh sh*t. We're here". I
was dumbfounded that my goal of the past 139 days was
reached. I was speechless. After hiking for so long,
the goal I had striven for literally appeared out of
nowhere in the middle of the woods.
My trek on the PCT is essentially over. Tomorrow it
is a short walk to a trail head parking lot in Manning
Park. No more starchy meals to cook, no more wearing
of "poly-pue" underwear, no more duct tape repairs to
equipment. Another long walk is over.
As I look back on this journey, I can't help but think
of the walk I took four years ago. The Appalachian
Trail was a watershed moment in my life. The hike
re-defined would could be done with my life. The trek
on the PCT was more of an affirmation of the lifestyle
I have chosen for myself. When am I getting back to
the real word? For me these long treks ARE the real
world. Mountains, rivers, deserts and snow are more
real to me after two extended treks in the mountains
than a world consisting of six years of car payments,
rising to the top of the business ladder and whatever
else is generally defined as being successful.
The journey on the crest was amazing. Pushing myself
through painful blisters, seeing the High Sierras and
the Cascades in all its raw beauty, the camaraderie
with my fellow hikers. The Pacific Crest Trail is not
just 2650 miles of hiking, it is 2650 miles of
memories that will last a lifetime.
***********
If you want to read the whole thing (if you are really
bored and having nothing better to do. :-D ), you can
read it at:
http://www.magnanti.com/mags_pct02.htm
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--Thoreau
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