[pct-l] Bear Cans

[tahoe.cat at verizon.net (Cathy)]

If you (threw ?) my GLOCK into the lake I would be very upset because I
would lose my job I could not afford to buy another one     Ground Pounder
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Courtway" <scourtway@bpa-arch.com>
To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Bear Cans


> while the mention of guns in these threads makes me CRINGE and want to
throw
> your glock in a lake, I will offer up this:  A friend was on a volunteer
> trail maintenance crew out of vermillion a couple weeks ago.  He said once
> the crewleaders fired their rifles into the air, the bears did not come
> back.  And the PCT does run through the land of the free after all.
>
> blanks not hollow points,
> s.c.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Bankhead" <wandering_bob@comcast.net>
> To: "Lars Nilsson" <Lars@standardarmament.com>;
> <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Bear Cans
>
>
> > Let me take that one step further. In bear country, alter your
ultra-light
> > ideas; carry the bear can. Leave the Glock at home. It doesn't have the
> > punch needed to stop a bear and will only serve to get you his undivided
> > attention. The chippies, marmots, and camp robbers, while annoying,
aren't
> > that bad on the trail, and you can't possibly carry enough ammo for the
> > mossies.
> >
> > Stopping a bear charge requires a heavy caliber weapon in the hands of
> > someone who (1) knows when to shoot and when not to (2) knows where to
hit
> > the animal to effectively do the most damage, and (3) has the mental
> > coolness to be able to put the bullet where he needs to while watching
400
> +
> > pounds of fang and claw close the distance between them at 30 miles per
> > hour. Even a cannon is useless if you can't hit anything with it.
> >
> > If you want to go hunting, buy a license, carry the right weapon, and go
> > where and when it's allowed. If you want to go hiking, leave the
bang-bang
> > at home. The loud noises scare away the hobbits.
> >
> > Wandering Bob
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lars Nilsson" <Lars@standardarmament.com>
> > To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 9:36 AM
> > Subject: [pct-l] Bear Cans
> >
> >
> > "Carrying gun and ammo is heavier than bringing a bear can."  Actually,
> > a Glock .40 w/ 7 rounds weighs several ounces LESS than a 'Bear Vault',
> > and more than a full pound less than the Garcia bear can.  And while a
> > Glock is less fun than a WWII US Sherman Tank or a German Panzer, it is
> > certainly more sporting.  Also, I think stealth camping with a tank,
> > with or without a bear can, is almost out of the question, especially in
> > the Sierras.  Really, the point of bear cans or even guns is not just
> > keeping humans safe, but keeping wild animals wild.  Carrying a bear can
> > is quieter than carrying a gun, and in today's American West, it is more
> > socially acceptable. I have no problem with responsible adults "packing
> > heat" on the trail.  We thru hikers and ultra lighters think of
> > ourselves as a breed apart, but we are still part of the food chain.
> > And as we used to say in the '60s, "If you're not part of the solution,
> > you're part of the problem".  Carry the can in bear country.
> > Sincerely,
> > Lars Nilsson
> >
> >
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