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>    1. SOBO on the PCT (was PCT Start Date) (ROYROBIN@aol.com)
>    2. H20 Between Kennedy Meadows - Mojave (Duane Steiner)
>    3. RE: Snow inthe cascades. (Judson Brown)
>    4. POOH CORNER is open (Bill Person)
>    5. GATR (Paul Freiman/Vicki Cavataio)
>    6. Resupply on the JMT (David Davis)
>    7. h20 for Kennedy Meadows to Trail Pass- 6/17,18 (Judson Brown)
>    8. hitching (Judson Brown)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 14:21:09 EDT
>From: ROYROBIN@aol.com
>Subject: [pct-l] SOBO on the PCT (was PCT Start Date)
>To: Lars@standardarmament.com, pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
>Message-ID: <1e.2c6c5ee8.2e05de15@aol.com>
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>In a message dated 6/18/04 10:33:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>Lars@standardarmament.com writes:
>
> > I am an AT '03 hiker now in grad school and aching to get back out
> > there, this time on the PCT, when I graduate next May. I want to start
> > planning so I have something to look forward to but wonder if I am
> > uneccesarily getting my hopes up - I won't be able to start until late
> > May, something like the 25th. Is this too late? What are the challenges
> > to starting this late and how many people do it?
>
>_____
>
>In a normal year, you might consider a southbound PCT hike starting in late
>May or early June.  It all depends on the snow pack in the northern 
>Cascades,
>but it's usually possible to get through the Sierras as late as October to
>complete a southbound hike.
>
>Whichever way you choose, do the hike.  We have to hike while we have the
>chance, and these opportunities come at times of change in our lives... 
>between
>graduation and the job, between jobs, between relationships or, for some of 
>us,
>after retirement.  So, go for it.
>
>The larger question seems to be:  Is a SOBO PCT hike even an option in the
>next few years?  The latest PCTA Communicator suggests that parts of the 
>detour
>around Glacier Peak in Washington will be impassable until early or even
>mid-August.  The fords of the Chiwawa and Napeequa Rivers are specifically
>mentioned.  Such a warning by the PCTA is entirely appropriate.  We don't 
>want anyone
>killed or suffering a hike-ending injury through lack of information about
>trail conditions.
>
>However, snow levels and runoff vary from year to year.  I hope people on
>this list who can do so will pass along up-to-the-minute information about 
>trail
>conditions, particularly on the Glacier Peak detour.  Strategies (if any) 
>for
>a southbound PCT hike should be a topic for discussion at our next ALDHA-W
>meeting in October.  That's Oct. 1-3, 2004, at Clair Tappaan Lodge, near 
>the PCT
>at Donner Summit, CA.  See:  http://www.aldhawest.org/
>_____
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 2
>Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 14:45:09 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Duane Steiner <dhstein31@yahoo.com>
>Subject: [pct-l] H20 Between Kennedy Meadows - Mojave
>To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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>Section F SOUTH
>McIvers Spring Running Well 6/11
>All three Mary Barcik caches at least half filled 6/12-13
>Landers Camp - still clear and flowing 6/13
>Landers Creek - Mostly dry 6/13
>Concrete Dam - Bathtub full 6/13
>Robin Bird Spring - flowing really nicely 6/13
>Golden Oak - flowing really nicely 6/14
>Cache - 10 gallons just on top of the tightest switches going up Cache Peak 
>- N of 58  6/14
>Cache along Rt 58 10 of 20 gallons 6/14
>
>Section G SOUTH
>South Kern River - flowing well 6/15
>Seasonal Creek Just North of steep slope to Long Lane - flowing really good 
>6/15
>Fox Mill - trough dry - but small stream behind bushes 6/16
>Chimney Creek - flowing good 6/16
>Spanish Needles- all just mud except the lowest and most South stream - and 
>that one was VERY difficult to get any puddles - do not rely on at all 6/16
>Joshua Tree Spring - flowing well 6/17
>
>Shutterbug- Duane
>
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 14:49:14 -0700
>From: "Judson Brown" <judson@jeffnet.org>
>Subject: RE: [pct-l] Snow inthe cascades.
>To: "'Joanne Lennox'" <goforth@cnw.com>,
>	<pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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>I can speak for the Oregon Cascades, as well. Heavy snow above 6000-6500 in
>the 3 Sisters area.
>
>Judson
>Ashland
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net]On Behalf Of Joanne Lennox
>Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 1:08 PM
>To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
>Subject: [pct-l] Snow inthe cascades.
>
>
>Well, the sun finally came out and I can see the mountains which are 
>covered
>with thick new snow down to about 5,500 in the Darington,  NOrthWest
>Cascades areas.  Mt Chaval which tops out at 7,000 ft is plastered and the
>snow goes out of sight before an intervening ridge obscures the new snow
>line.  May be less snow to the East where the PCT is rerouted, but here it
>looks like the snowpack is still at 5,000 feet or below on the NOrth side 
>of
>the peaks.
>
>Goforth
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>Message: 4
>Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 15:08:20 -0700
>From: "Bill Person" <bill@billperson.org>
>Subject: [pct-l] POOH CORNER is open
>To: "Pct-L@Mailman. Backcountry. Net" <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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>We are open as usual this year.  However, someone is ripping down our signs
>at Donner Summit. I am going to try some other locations for the signs, 
>but,
>in the meantime please pass the word for hikers to call us at 530-587-4485
>When they get to Donner Summit/Soda Springs/Old  US40. Sorry to those whom 
>I
>missed.
>
>Thanks,
>Pooh aka Bill Person
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 15:24:08 -0700
>From: Paul Freiman/Vicki Cavataio <pfreiman@popmail.ucsd.edu>
>Subject: [pct-l] GATR
>To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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>Mile 49.1  The Noble Canyon trailhead is open and the water spigot is
>gushing water.
>
>
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>Message: 6
>Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 15:24:13 -0700 (PDT)
>From: David Davis <atvet@sbcglobal.net>
>Subject: [pct-l] Resupply on the JMT
>To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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>There is an alternative to either having mail drops or hitchhiking into a 
>town on the JMT. From North to South,  the store at Toulome Meadows is well 
>stocked along with another store that sells hiking supplies. The next stop 
>would be at Mammoth where the US Park Service contracts with a bus service 
>that runs roughly parallel to the PCT/JMT from Agnew Meadows to Red's. Last 
>year I believe the fare was $10. For JMT hikers, picking up the bus at 
>either the Devil's Post pile or Red's Meadow is easy to do and you'll will 
>be dropped off at the Mammoth Resort.
>
>
>Dave
>
>
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>Message: 7
>Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 15:47:24 -0700
>From: "Judson Brown" <judson@jeffnet.org>
>Subject: [pct-l] h20 for Kennedy Meadows to Trail Pass- 6/17,18
>To: "pctl (E-mail)" <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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>SF Kern (1.9 N of KMCG)- lots
>
>Crag Creek- dry at crossing; may be some up above, but I didn't look too
>hard
>
>SF Kern (11.7 N of KMCG)- lots, though I did see a cowpie float by
>
>Cow Creek- dry at the 1st crossing 2.7 N of the bridge, flowing at all 
>other
>crossings
>
>spring near jct. in Cow Canyon- dry, but who cares, since the creek is
>flowing
>
>creek 0.7 S of Gomez Mdw.- flowing
>
>Death Canyon creek- flowing, with a nice, deep pool just upstream from the
>trail
>
>saddle near Diaz Cr.- saw no jct. to speak of, nor did I look for water to
>the E, as the guidebook mentions- but 5 min. N there is a large pond in the
>meadow to your right, quite near the trail
>
>Dutch Mdw.- I saw no sign of the jcts. shown on the guidebook map (true for
>much of this section)- to get water hike to the 1st switchback- an obvious
>use path continues straight ahead to a corral, with a running creek just
>past it
>
>Meadow Ed was holding court at KMCG, and there were lots of happy hikers as
>a result.
>
>Judson
>Ashland
>
>
>
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>Message: 8
>Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 15:57:30 -0700
>From: "Judson Brown" <judson@jeffnet.org>
>Subject: [pct-l] hitching
>To: "pctl (E-mail)" <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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>There has been a lot of discussion about hitching on this forum, so I
>thought I would add my recent experiences into the mix.
>
>After finishing at KM, I got a ride from near the store less than 5 min.
>after I got there. Guy was driving this scary old motorhome, and told me 5
>mi. into the drive that I might want to have my seatbelt off in case we
>needed to ditch, 'cause his brakes weren't too good. Jesus, was that a 
>scary
>ride. Nice guy, though.
>
>He dropped me at Pearsonville- basically a Shell station. Got a ride to 
>Lone
>Pine w/ a very nice trucker, but after a LOT of waiting. IMHO, getting a
>lift to or from trailheads is a lot easier than getting rides up or down
>395, especially for big, scary looking bums like me. On the plus side, I 
>did
>get to sample every one of the mini-marts 6 flavors of gatorade! (hey, what
>else are you gonna do in Pearsonville?)
>
>I was worried about getting up to Horseshoe Mdws., where I had left my car.
>Several people said it was a difficult hitch. Nonetheless, within 15 min. I
>was on my way up with a very nice couple.
>
>The first ride started at 9am; I got to Horseshoe Mdws. at about 3pm.
>
>Judson
>Ashland
>
>
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