[pct-l] Mt. Whitney Expedition

[dave at livebythepark.com (David Davis)]

Clarification.  I only meant to question whether thru-hiking "earns" one a
free pass to come back and do Whitney whenever one feels like it.  Of course
thru-hikers should get pretty much a free pass during their adventure.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Davis" <dave@livebythepark.com>
To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mt. Whitney Expedition


> I'm not sure that thru hiking the entire PCT earns you a "free Whitney
> stamp,"  but even if it did, you are posting the idea on an open forum
where
> others who have not "earned" their free pass are likely to be seduced by
the
> idea of an easy way around the regs.
>
> Regardless of whether you like the regs or the forest service, we are all
> stuck with them.  It would be a shame if people misusing the Thru-hike
> permit caused the bureaucrats to tighten up the rules.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard" <calliger@infolane.com>
> To: "David Davis" <dave@livebythepark.com>;
<pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mt. Whitney Expedition
>
>
> > I think we have walked the full PCT already, I for one did not
> > make it up then becasue of snow.so I have a free Whitney stamp
> > coming and therefore I don't consider it abuse...Sorry..only fair!
> >
> > And I would bet that there were more thatn did not make it up either.
> > And if you want abuse, it is the Forest Service that is going overboard
> > on permits, unneeded controls and regs becasue of run-away beauracrats!
> > (Granted there is some need like the poop-patrol...but get a life FS!)
> >
> > R
> >
> > At 08:49 AM 7/10/03 -0700, David Davis wrote:
> > >We really should not abuse the PCT permits.  This is how a few "screw
it
> up
> > >for everyone."  It's reasonable that someone who has walked 800 miles
to
> get
> > >there might be entitled to some slack on the Whitney permit.  It's not
> right
> > >to get a PCT permit just to get some slack on Whitney when one does not
> > >intend to walk the whole thing.
> > >
> > >If I'm not mistaken, you can still do the Mountaineer's route or the
> route
> > >up the west side from Arctic Lake without going through the lottery.
> > >
> > >----- Original Message ----- 
> > >From: "Richard" <calliger@infolane.com>
> > >To: "Kurt Johnson" <piedra2901@yahoo.com>;
> <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 5:15 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mt. Whitney Expedition
> > >
> > >
> > >> Get a thru permit (are they still free?) which entitles you to a
> Whitney
> > >> sticker, yes?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> R
> > >>
> > >> At 02:29 PM 7/9/03 -0700, Kurt Johnson wrote:
> > >> >Good luck on getting a permit!  As far as I know, they lottery off
> 100%
> > >of
> > >> available permits in February for the entire season.  I don't think
> they
> > >> hold back any permits for walk-in's.  I applied for a multiday permit
> for
> > >> August and did not get one.  According to the Inyo NF website,
chances
> of
> > >> obtaining a multiday permit through the lottery system are 57%.
> > >> >
> > >> >There are cancellations though, and I hope you are lucky enough to
get
> > >one,
> > >> but I wouldn't get your hopes too high.
> > >> >
> > >> >Padre
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >Hiker97@aol.com wrote: I am planning a major expedition to Mt.
Whitney
> > >for
> > >> Monday, August 11. I hope to get a walk-in permit, since it is a
> weekday
> > >> event. Basically, we acclimate Monday night at Whtiney Portal.
Tuesday
> we
> > >> start for Outpost Camp at 5 A.M to camp/acclimate. Wednesday we start
> for
> > >> Trail Camp at 5 A.M to camp/acclimate. Thursday mid-night we start up
> the
> > >97
> > >> switchbacks and on to the top for sunrise. There is a full moon
around
> > >this
> > >> time, so it should be fantastic. Anyone interested? Bring an 02
bottle,
> I
> > >> might need it. Happy trails, Switchback P.S. I think the record for
the
> > >> 21-mile hike up and back on the Mt. Whitney trail is a little over 4
> > >hours.
> > >> But that is for youth.
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