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[pct-l] Mt. Whitney
also I am sure her diet would contribute also. I know I stay away from
it becuse A i never have altitude problims and B I have a kidney that is
bad that has three tummer sin it. I go into suregry week after next for
that. worst time to have suregry summer.
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>a quick Google search will answer anything:
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>"Diamox is an enzyme inhibitor that acts specifically on the
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>hydration of carbon dioxide and the dehydration of carbonic acid. The
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>diuretic effect of Diamox is due to its action in the kidney on the
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>reversible reaction involving hydration of carbon dioxide and
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>dehydration of carbonic acid. The result is renal loss of HCO3 ion,
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>which carries out sodium, water, and potassium."
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>This makes complete sense because she had low Potassium, which was
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>obviously carried out by the diuretic effects of the Diamox.
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>Also, on the same page were 6 warnings; this was the first one:
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>"This drug should not be used if you have kidney disease, diabetes,
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>adrenal grand failure, or are allergic to any carbonic anhydrase
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>source:
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>http://www.periodicparalysis.org/PPRC/Pharmacy/PharmacyView.asp?
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>(you will have to cut and paste the complete URL into the browser
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>>how much was from the altuatde and how much was from her not
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>>eating right. I have had plenty of disbteics take it with no
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>>problim. Nothing in my high altutde back country emergency tech
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>>books say a word about it.
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>>dude wrote:
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>>>This all sound slike good advice, but I have one thing to add:
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>>>****DO NOT take any medicine on the mountain that you have not
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>>>previously taken at home with no ill side effects!!*****
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>>>I once took a diabetic woman up whitney who was feeling the
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>>>effects of altitude and decide dto "borrow" some Diamox from a
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>>>fellow climber. Everyone has heard of Diamox and how it is
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>>>suppose dto help with altitude sickness, so she figured "yeah!
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>>>that's what I need. I will fell better in no time and be ready
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>>>to race up the mountain!"
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>>>WRONG! It turned out that diabetics cannot take Diamox and she
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>>>almost died on the mountain! Her blood sugar went down to 19
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>>>(normal is like 80-120) and she passed out 17 times on the way
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>>>down the trail. When she got to the hospital in Lone Pine, she
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>>>needed 2 liters of intraveinous saline solution to bring her back
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>>>from severe dehydration. She is really lucky to be alive. I
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>>>tell doctors that story and they are amazed that she was
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>>>conscious with a blood sugar level of 19.
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>>>this story is not meant to scare you or anyone who wants to climb
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>>>Whitney or any other mountain. Its just meant to prove a point:
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>>>don't take medicine that you are not familiar with on the
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>>>mountain. It doesnt matter if its Tylenol, Tums, Imodium, or
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>>>Sucrets. You never know if you will be the 1 in 10 million
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>>>people who will be allergic to it and you do not want to find out
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>>>at 14,000 ft and 10 hours from a hospital.
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>>>godo luck.
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>>>peace!
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>>>dude
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>>>>You most likely will acclimate quite quickly to "altitudes
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>>>>above, say, 9,000' "..
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>>>>and since you are not going to have an extended stay above
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>>>>10,000 feet there is naught to worry about for 99% of the people
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>>>>who go there...any symptoms of high altitude sickness (which you
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>>>>should read up on FYI) will not occur, typically, in the few
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>>>>hours you are at alttitude. Appetite changes usually take 4-5
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>>>>days AT ALTITUDE to occur and you will be totally hungary for
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>>>>the mere day you are there...
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>>>>Please do not be fearful of the negative implicaitons of those
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>>>>comments as they truely don't pertain to someone hiking to the
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>>>>top of Whitney and going back down in a few hours or so...most
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>>>>sicknesses need several days for most people to occur (at
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>>>>altitude above 10,000- 12,000) feet and at most if you stay
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>>>>overnight @ the high camp (about 12,000) feet you will feel
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>>>>short of breath, a little nausa perhaps but that is about it...
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>>>>I have spent entire summers above 10,000 and after a few days
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>>>>most people acclimate very easily. For 4 days just take what you
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>>>>like to eat, is easy to prepare as per my other post, and is not
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>>>>too heavy. But,additionally, most of your weight will be carried
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>>>>to trail camp and u leave your tent and heavy bag there.
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>>>>Most people fare well..if you feel a lot of gurgling in your
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>>>>chest or extreme lightheaded,severe headachey, drink several
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>>>>liters of water..at leaast 2,
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>>>>and wait 20-30 minutes. Maybe take 2-3 aspirin. If those
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>>>>symptoms worsen head down to lower altitude
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>>>>just about immediately...the symptoms will magically dissapear
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>>>>around 8000-9000 feet in an hour. U can then rest there for a
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>>>>day and try again, stopping
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>>>>for half a day at 10,500 and proceed leisurely up to 12000 and
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>>>>camp; then the summit the next day.
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>>>>As far as winds and delta temps, dont worry...during Aug it is
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>>>>very very much late spring/ early summer above 9000', in 25
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>>>>years of hanging around Whitney area it does not fluctuate that
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>>>>much in Aug...but be prepared for 40's F.
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>>>>You have more to worry about with the bears at the Portal than
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>>>>alititude loss of appetite, or wind or whatever!
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>>>>Check out my web site for a great pic (IMHO)
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>>>>http://www.infolane.com/calliger
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>>>>If you want to discuss it more, I am considered somewhat of an
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>>>>expert after several months of mountaineering schools and 25+
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>>>>years of accident/event free mountaineering of quite a few peaks
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>>>>(although I did fracture my foot in my driveway at home!!)
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>>>>in the ice..but that don't count!!... please write me off-line.
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>>>>Richard
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>>>>There are bold mountaineers, and there are old mountaineers.
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>>>>There are few,if any, old, bold mountaineers.
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>>>>An expert is defined as one who knows his and others limitations
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>>>>and usually exceeds them-- cautiously!1 <smile>...
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>>>>At 10:02 AM 6/2/03 -0700, Christine Kudija wrote:
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>>>>>Jane,
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>>>>>A couple of questions for you: (1) are you accustomed to
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>>>>>altitudes above, say, 9,000'/~3000m? Appetite changes at
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>>>>>something you usually do. (2) are you accustomed to an
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>>>>>I'll have some suggestions after you reply....also, are you
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>>>>>asking only about food, or about gear as well?
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>>>>>Christine "Ceanothus" Kudija
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>>>>>"Never measure the height of a mountain, until you have reached
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>>>>>the top. Then you will see how low it was." Dag Hammarskjold
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>>>>>----- Original Message -----
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>>>>>From: "Jane E Overton" <jeoverton@sbcglobal.net>
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>>>>>To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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>>>>>Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 11:52 AM
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>>>>>Subject: [pct-l] Mt. Whitney
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>>>>>| I am climbing Mt. Whitney in August (permit in hand). I have
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>>>>>a number of books, but not one has a sensible list of supples
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>>>>>for the climb. Does anyone have a link, where I could hust get
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>>>>>the grocery list fot a four day hike. I am not a picky eater.
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