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[pct-l] Hike for a youngster
Adam,
No matter how old a person is, no matter from where in the world they origi=
nate, or how lofty or modest their position in life, the trail is a great e=
qualizer. (Not to be confused with Llamalady's Equalizer, which is another =
topic altogether:)
My husband Jeff and I have been hosting hikers for a few years, now, and ha=
ve heard from a fair number of concerned parents. Your age doesn't matter =
. . . moms and dads worry even when you're 20-something. Trust me -- they c=
all. As worried (or worse) are the grown children of older hikers who thin=
k that their mom or dad shouldn't be out hiking. At 40-something I know my=
mom still worries about me and the hare-brained things I do.
Parents (as humans) fear the unknown. It's easy to conjecture every extreme=
possibility into daily occurrences on the trail. I know this as a mother m=
yself -- it's terrible how your imagination plays tricks on you. The fact =
is, you are safer out on the trail than driving on the freeway or using an =
ATM machine at a bank in the city. I have grown to feel much safer in the w=
ilderness than in urban settings. Of course, convincing your parents of thi=
s is another thing altogether.
There's been quite a few 18 year olds that have come through, some who have=
started "alone", but find the groups and individuals they like best. If y=
ou start with the main pack -- generally around the Kick-Off -- you will be=
traveling with a group of people on and off up the trail. The collective e=
xperience of the hiker population exceeds what any one individual can know.=
It seems that the best of partners somehow find each other on the trail, a=
nd often pre-chosen partners turn out to be incompatible when faced with ad=
versity, choices, and differences of hiking styles.
The southern section of the PCT, the area where you pay your dues and get h=
ardened to the rigors of trail life, is pretty well peppered with trail ang=
els, hiker hosts, and generally kind people. And, I have never seen such k=
indness, trust, and caring as hikers show for each other. The common bond =
of humanity and comaraderie is a joy to behold. It's what this world needs =
more of. That's one big reason why we host.
I would suggest that you draw your parents into the picture as much as poss=
ible -- have them hike sections with you if they're up to it, or meet you a=
t some road crossings (tell them to bring plenty of food and drink along an=
d lots of lounge chairs). Most importantly, have them meet your fellow hik=
ers. If you can make the unknown more known to them, their fear will dimini=
sh.
Follow your dream. There is a reason you want to do this. You just have to=
get out there and see what that reason is. You will find many willing frie=
nds who will help you . . . your best friends that you haven't met yet. We=
hope to be among them, and will give you rest, shelter, and a place to cal=
l home from (and on) the trail.
Hope this helps.
-=3DDonna Saufley=3D-
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Pants on the PCT? (Christine Kudija)
2. Looking for book / Jason. (Jason Waicunas)
3. Topo 4.0 Complete PCT Route (Jared McClain)
4. Getting to the Trail head on Mexican border (karen bresslin)
5. Re: PCT-L digest, Vol 1 #806 - 23 msgs (Karen Borski)
6. Re: PCT maps ?waterproof inkjet paper (Jeff Bohannon)
7. re: alcohol stoves & fuel -availability of fuel on PCT (karen
bresslin)
8. Re: Getting to the Trail head on Mexican border (Tim Hart)
9. Re: Re: PCT maps ?waterproof inkjet paper (Slyatpct@aol.com)
10. A hike for a youngster (adam davidoff)
11. Re: Getting to the Trail head on Mexican border (Bighummel@aol.com)
12. Re: Pants on the PCT? (larry hillberg)
13. RE: Re: PCT maps ?waterproof inkjet paper (Jerry Goller)
14. Re: A hike for a youngster (Gary Wright)
15. Latest on Bear Canisters (AV8TORX@aol.com)
16. Re: Pants on the PCT? (CMountainDave@aol.com)
17. Re: Re: PCT-L digest, Vol 1 #806 - 23 msgs (CMountainDave@aol.com)
18. pants on the pct (Marion Davison)
19. Availability of Alcohol/HEET (yogi hicker)
20. Prepaid Film Mailers (Christopher Van Loon)
21. Pack searching (Patrick Shannon)
22. Re: A hike for a youngster (Brad Wilson)
23. Re: Pants on the PCT? (Bighummel@aol.com)
24. Re: Pack searching (Bighummel@aol.com)
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Message: 1
Reply-To: "Christine Kudija" <cmkudija@earthlink.net>
From: "Christine Kudija" <cmkudija@earthlink.net>
To: <jared747@nc.rr.com>, <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pants on the PCT?
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 10:44:08 -0800
My husband Chuck (Igor) always wears whatever brand of lightweight,
zip-off
legs, supplex pants that's on sale, whether they're Ex Officio, REI, or
whatever. (He hates sunscreen but burns easily) Hiking in pants doesn't
seem to be a problem for him, and if it's really warm, he unzips the legs,
rolls each pant leg into a doughnut (without taking the pant leg off), and
stuffs them into his socks. The swollen-ankle look is only a bit odd,
and
it's convenient for putting the legs back on when the temp drops or the
wind
comes up.
Hmmn. Maybe he's starting a trend.... ;-).
I personally prefer running shorts in a non-chafing fabric like
micro-polyester. The zipper placement in most zip-off pantleg pants
chafes
in unmentionable places ;-) !
Christine "Ceanothus" Kudija
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Then you will see how low it was." Dag Hammarskjold
,
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From: "Jared McClain" <jared747@nc.rr.com>
To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 6:01 PM
Subject: [pct-l] Pants on the PCT?
I'm thinking about wearing lightweight Exofficio pants for the PCT this
year
it seems like it might be a good alternative to sunscreen and bug dope?
Just wondering if anyone else out there has experience hiking long
distance
in pants instead of shorts? Of course I'll bring a pair of shorts but I'm
hoping the pants will workout.
Jared
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Message: 2
From: "Jason Waicunas" <jasonwaicunas@hotmail.com>
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 12:16:58 -0500
Subject: [pct-l] Looking for book / Jason.
Hello All,
I'm in the planning stages for walking the PCT, starting in March, 2005.
Does anyone have a copy of Ray Jardine's, "PCT Hiker's Handbook"; the most
recent copy,(1996) that they are willing to sell / part with? If so,
please
contact me.
Take it easy,
-Jason Waicunas.
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Message: 3
From: "Jared McClain" <jmcclain2@nc.rr.com>
To: "Pct-L Mailing List" <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 15:07:37 -0500
Subject: [pct-l] Topo 4.0 Complete PCT Route
I am looking for someone who has the complete PCT route saved from Delorme
Topo 3.0 or 4.0 as I am having great difficulty with this function in the
software. If anyone out there can give me a hand with this I would be
forever grateful.
Jared
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Message: 4
From: "karen bresslin" <numbrrrs@hotmail.com>
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 23:00:24 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] Getting to the Trail head on Mexican border
I was just wondering if anyone had a solution for getting to the trailhead
in a timely manner. I've read how to physically get there, which reflects
arriving in Campo around 5:00pm. But then I read that ideally you want to
hike in about 20 miles the first day in order to get to water and get away
from the Mexican border (reducing the chance of an incident with an
illegal
alien). Arriving at 5:00pm and hiking 20 miles that same day just isn't
realistic for me ... ha,ha. The couple people I know who have hiked the
PCT
had family or friends in the area to drive them to the trailhead. I,
unfortunately, do not have either. Does anyone have another solution to
this
problem? I would so appreciate the input.
Thanks,
Numbrrs
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 15:02:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Karen Borski <kborski@yahoo.com>
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net, yogilists@hotmail.com
Subject: [pct-l] Re: PCT-L digest, Vol 1 #806 - 23 msgs
Yogi,
I stayed in Mojave for a week last December when I was
working at Edwards Air Force Base. The Whites still
own it, and I had to have some trail chat with them
even though I was there on "business."
They are still trying to sell the business, and I
could see that there appears to be some type of new
road construction in the area. But, honestly, the
motel was super busy, and they didn't seem to be very
excited about the thought of selling the motel. It
has been in their family for over a hundred years.
Nocona
In 2002, the White family told me they were trying to
sell their motel, due to the interstate/highway being
constructed .......
Anyone know if the Whites still own the motel? They
were GREAT to
hikers!!
yogi
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Message: 6
From: "Jeff Bohannon" <jeffbohannon@hotmail.com>
To: rellinwood@worldnet.att.net, PCT-L@mailman.backcountry.net
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 23:10:17 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] Re: PCT maps ?waterproof inkjet paper
Anyone know a good source of waterproof inkjet paper to print the maps on?
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Message: 7
From: "karen bresslin" <numbrrrs@hotmail.com>
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 23:11:13 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] re: alcohol stoves & fuel -availability of fuel on PCT
In regards to the alcolhol stove on the PCT, I was wondering about the
availability of the proper fuel throughout the PCT. Was it easy to find
denatured alcohol or 'heat'? What type of store typically carried this
item
- grocery? hardware? general store?
Thanks,
Numbrrs
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 16:21:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Tim Hart <atcamel@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Getting to the Trail head on Mexican border
To: karen bresslin <numbrrrs@hotmail.com>, pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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Hi Karen,
Most hikers spend the first night on the trail near Campo. You might want
=3D
to pick up a few items at the Campo store before it closes. It's 2.6
miles=3D
round trip to the border from Campo. You'll want to take pictures!
There=3D
's an INS facility in Campo with lots of border guards. If you camp the
fi=3D
rst night near Campo, you'll be near the INS facility - a place illegals
wi=3D
ll want to avoid. You'll be within "screaming distance" of the border
guar=3D
ds. The next day you'll want to hike the 20 miles to Lake Morena.
Camel AT 98
Starman PCT 00
Tim CDT 02
karen bresslin <numbrrrs@hotmail.com> wrote:I was just wondering if
anyone=3D
had a solution for getting to the trailhead
in a timely manner. I've read how to physically get there, which reflects
arriving in Campo around 5:00pm. But then I read that ideally you want to
hike in about 20 miles the first day in order to get to water and get away
from the Mexican border (reducing the chance of an incident with an
illegal
alien). Arriving at 5:00pm and hiking 20 miles that same day just isn't
realistic for me ... ha,ha. The couple people I know who have hiked the
PCT
had family or friends in the area to drive them to the trailhead. I,
unfortunately, do not have either. Does anyone have another solution to
this
problem? I would so appreciate the input.
Thanks,
Numbrrs
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Message: 9
From: Slyatpct@aol.com
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:05:35 EST
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Re: PCT maps ?waterproof inkjet paper
To: jeffbohannon@hotmail.com, rellinwood@worldnet.att.net,
PCT-L@mailman.backcountry.net
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In a message dated 3/5/2003 6:14:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jeffbohannon@hotmail.com writes:
> Anyone know a good source of waterproof inkjet paper to print the maps
on?
>
>
I printed my CDT maps on Canon bubble jet paper, $20 for 200 sheets.
Water
resistant, printable on both sides, the ink didn't run when wet. The 8
1/2
by 11 inch maps fit nicely in a clear gallon ziplock.
If you're clever, you'll print even and odd on seperate sheets (front and
back), that way you hold them together and/or have two maps back to back
in
the ziplock.
Sly
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 17:23:22 -0800 (PST)
From: adam davidoff <abd3@yahoo.com>
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] A hike for a youngster
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Hi all!
My name is Adam, and I'm a 17 year old junior in high school. I love the
ou=3D
tdoors, and for several years now i have flirted with the idea of a
through=3D
hike of the PCT. Recently i came up with the idea to graduate a semester
e=3D
arly and ATTEMPT a through hike. I have done hours of research and i am
awa=3D
re how difficult it is to plan and actually follow through with this
amazin=3D
g experience. My parents are aware of my tenative plans, but as most
parent=3D
s of a teenager would be they are very concerned. They have repeatedly
enco=3D
uraged me to try and find a partner. I'm ok with the idea of a partner, i
d=3D
ont really know what to think of it. I' was wondering if anyone out there
h=3D
ad suggestions for me, or was interested in getting to know me with a
possi=3D
bility of hiking as well. Considering im interested in a trip of this
natu=3D
re consider this about me: I am motivated, love the outdoors, outgoing,
res=3D
ponsible, and most of all, NOT naive.
Thanks all for listenings... Questions, comments, concerns; I'd love to
hear
peace-
adam
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Message: 11
From: Bighummel@aol.com
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:23:33 EST
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Getting to the Trail head on Mexican border
To: numbrrrs@hotmail.com, pct-l@backcountry.net
CC: cdrriess1@Cox.net
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This is precisely why the ADZPCTKO was initiated. Check out <A
HREF=3D"www.pct77.org/adz">
<a target=3D_blank
href=3D"http://www.pct77.org/adz</A>">www.pct77.org/adz</A></a> and send yo=
ur request for transportation to Campo or the
border from the San Diego area to Bob "ADZ Food Dude" Riess at
cdrriess1@Cox.net
Greg Hummel
In a message dated 3/5/2003 3:05:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,
numbrrrs@hotmail.com writes:
> I was just wondering if anyone had a solution for getting to the
trailhead
> in a timely manner. I've read how to physically get there, which
reflects
> arriving in Campo around 5:00pm. But then I read that ideally you want
to
> hike in about 20 miles the first day in order to get to water and get
away
> from the Mexican border (reducing the chance of an incident with an
illegal
> alien). Arriving at 5:00pm and hiking 20 miles that same day just isn't
> realistic for me ... ha,ha. The couple people I know who have hiked the
PCT
> had family or friends in the area to drive them to the trailhead. I,
> unfortunately, do not have either. Does anyone have another solution to
> this
> problem? I would so appreciate the input.
> Thanks,
> Numbrrs
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:00:09 -0800 (PST)
From: larry hillberg <walkinglarry@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pants on the PCT?
To: jared747@nc.rr.com
Cc: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
In my opinion, your Exofficio long pants are ideal. I
used both long pants and shorts for my thru hike, both
Exofficio by the way, and wore the long pants more
than the shorts. In addition to protection from sun
and bugs, they also were an excellent windbreaker. I
would do the same again.
Larry
--- Jared McClain <jared747@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> I'm thinking about wearing lightweight Exofficio
> pants for the PCT this year
> it seems like it might be a good alternative to
> sunscreen and bug dope?
> Just wondering if anyone else out there has
> experience hiking long distance
> in pants instead of shorts? Of course I'll bring a
> pair of shorts but I'm
> hoping the pants will workout.
>
> Jared
>
>
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Message: 13
From: "Jerry Goller" <jerrygoller@backpackgeartest.org>
To: "'Jeff Bohannon'" <jeffbohannon@hotmail.com>,
<rellinwood@worldnet.att.net>, <PCT-L@mailman.backcountry.net>
Subject: RE: [pct-l] Re: PCT maps ?waterproof inkjet paper
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:10:07 -0700
You might want to take a look at
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As a result of our tests, Nat. Geo. brought out 11 X 17 paper.
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Subject: [pct-l] Re: PCT maps ?waterproof inkjet paper
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 22:55:49 -0500
Subject: Re: [pct-l] A hike for a youngster
Cc: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
To: adam davidoff <abd3@yahoo.com>
From: Gary Wright <at2002@earthlink.net>
On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 08:23 PM, adam davidoff wrote:
> They have repeatedly encouraged me to try and find a partner. I'm ok
> with the idea of a partner, i dont really know what to think of it.
Regardless of your age, it is very difficult to find a hiking
partner *before* you hike who will turn out to be compatible
with you on the trail. This works best with couples who are
in a long-term relationship. It doesn't work well with best
friends, "new" significant others, and so on. There are
exceptions, but this was what I observed on the AT.
Speaking of the AT, I suspect it would be infinitely
easier to meet and hike with other folks on the AT than on
the PCT. AT and PCT double-crowners might have some thoughts
on this.
A couple of practical considerations. At 17, you are going
to find it impossible to rent a car (probably not a big
issue though). You might have trouble renting hotel rooms.
The youngest hikers I met on the AT were three brothers
hiking all of Virginia. They were between 13 and 18. This
excludes the Witcher family (kids 8 and 11) and Scratch (father)
and Tuf-e-nuf (son, age 14). Train, also a 2002 hiker, was
18.
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Message: 15
From: AV8TORX@aol.com
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:01:01 EST
To: PCT-L@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] Latest on Bear Canisters
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Hi, Does anyone know what is the latest verdict on carrying a bear
canister?
Can you rent/borrow them anywhere? Thanks Dave
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Message: 16
From: CMountainDave@aol.com
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:53:57 EST
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pants on the PCT?
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Used nothing but pants. Ex Officio's were okay but they wore out in the
seat.
Trail Riders are much baggier but they lasted the entire way
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Message: 17
From: CMountainDave@aol.com
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 00:06:36 EST
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Re: PCT-L digest, Vol 1 #806 - 23 msgs
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
In a message dated 3/5/03 3:15:50 PM, kborski@yahoo.com writes:
<< I stayed in Mojave for a week last December when I was
working at Edwards Air Force Base. The Whites still
own it, and I had to have some trail chat with them
even though I was there on "business."
They are still trying to sell the business, and I
could see that there appears to be some type of new
road construction in the area. But, honestly, the
motel was super busy, and they didn't seem to be very
excited about the thought of selling the motel. It
has been in their family for over a hundred years. >>
Mr. White told me he started working for his dad at the motel in 1929. 74
years at the same place. Amazing!! Most people would consider 30 years to
be
a career
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 20:20:42 -0800
From: Marion Davison <mardav@charter.net>
To: PCT List <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Subject: [pct-l] pants on the pct
On durability
We have been wearing "Sportif" lightweight nylon pants on the trail for
a couple months a year (2 pair each) for the last 9 years. Only problem
encountered is the butt seam ripped out on a trip (too much stooping I
guess) so I double-sewed all the butt seams at home on the sewing
machine. No problems after that. Pants came from Sierra Trading Post.
llamalady
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Message: 19
From: "yogi hicker" <yogilists@hotmail.com>
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 23:52:47 -0600
Subject: [pct-l] Availability of Alcohol/HEET
Denatured Alcohol and/or HEET is not hard to find on the PCT. Most gas
stations carried HEET, and Hardware stores have denatured alcohol. I put
together a list of trail town information on my journal which includes
places where I found alcohol/HEET. Go to the 2002 PCT journal at:
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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:30:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Christopher Van Loon <vanloonc@yahoo.com>
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] Prepaid Film Mailers
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Hi all,
I've been looking into prepaid film mailers, and I'm kind of confused.
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e's the deal: I have an Olympus Stylus Epic camera, for which I plan to
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ASA400 35mm film in either 24 or 36 exposure rolls. I went searching on
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he web for prepaid mailers, and found a site that sells them for $6.49
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ce.
Here's what I don't get: Exactly what am I paying for? If I stick a roll
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f film in one of these mailers, filled out with a mailing address, is that
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all I have to pay? Or do I also have to pay postage on top of that? And
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s this generally for one copy of a certain size print?
Please bear with me on this. I don't want to spend a bunch of money on a
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istake. If someone can sort this out for me, and/or find me a better
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in, I'd appreciate it. Incidentally, my wild guess was that I'd go
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roughly 1000 exposures on my hike (my wife and I will share the one
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)=3D2E Is this realistic? I estimated two 24-exposure rolls per week, for
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0 or 21 weeks.
Any advice will be appreciated. I searched the old PCT-L archives, and
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nd little on the subject.
Thanks in advance,
Phoenix
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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 00:38:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Patrick Shannon <canuck013@yahoo.com>
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] Pack searching
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Hey all,
I am looking for a good pack for my PCT thru-hike. I am a solo hiker,
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g the lightweight (but not ultralight) approach. I am 5'7" and 135 lbs. I
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m big into photography though and have a good 6 lbs worth of camera gear.
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was figuring something in the range of 5000 cu in. would suit me well,
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am looking for the lightest pack of high quality I can find in this size.
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I was potentially looking at the Mountainsmith Specter whose listed specs
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re 4lbs 5oz and 5600 cu in of space. I know this is heavier than most
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weight hikers use, but I am worried about the camera gear. Does anyone
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any info on this pack for me or a better option? Any advice would be
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ly appreciated. Thanks.
Patrick
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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 09:50:34 -0500
Subject: Re: [pct-l] A hike for a youngster
From: Brad Wilson <BWIL5272@postoffice.uri.edu>
To: Gary Wright <at2002@earthlink.net>, adam davidoff <abd3@yahoo.com>
CC: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Gary's right, you won't be able to rent a car but that really shouldn't be
an issue.
I thru-hiked the AT when I was 16 (solo) - as long as you have a credit
card
motels shouldn't care about your age.
I didn't look that much older that the other kids in my grade but when I
was
on trail people assumed I was older than I was, just because I was hiking
alone. That was ok with me. It was funny in Damascus, VA some guys were
going to Quincy's (local bar) to watch a hockey game. They asked if I
wanted to come and I said I wasn't sure if I could... They looked a little
puzzled and I told them I was sixteen... But was turning 17 in a few
weeks.
They couldn't believe it.
I was nervous about the age thing when I hiked, thinking there would be a
lot of things I couldn't do because of my age, but besides renting a car
and
drinking, there's not a whole lot on trail that you can't do.
In fact, I went to a bar with some other hikers one night and ordered a
drink - just to see what would happen. Sure enough, they didn't even card
me... It was a bit of a boost to the ego for a soon to be high school
senior.
One thing you'll want to have with you is a document from your parents -
signed - saying if you need medical attention, that a hospital can provide
that to you. A friend of mine was skiing a while ago and broke his leg -
legally, the hospital couldn't so anything until the got in touch with the
parents and got permission... And keep your insurance info with you too...
It will just make things easier if you do get hurt at some point along
your
hike.
Gary had another good point. I hiked "alone" on the AT, but I was always
meeting new people. I was going fast, but if I found some people I liked,
I
would slow down and hike with them for a few days. Why do you want to hike
the PCT? Would it make sense to hike the AT first, then hike the PCT in a
few years, after you have some more miles under your belt?
There is very little your age will keep you from. In fact, I think I was
lucky I couldn't drink on trail. I saw so many guys go to the bar in town,
drink, be hung over in the morning, not want to hike with a throbbing
headache, be in town another night and go to the bar again - it was a
cycle
some people had a hard time breaking... And it wasn't cheap either! So in
that respect, it was easier for me, because I didn't have to deal with
those
issues.
-Brad
On 3/5/03 10:55 PM, "Gary Wright" <at2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 08:23 PM, adam davidoff wrote:
>> They have repeatedly encouraged me to try and find a partner. I'm ok
>> with the idea of a partner, i dont really know what to think of it.
>
> Regardless of your age, it is very difficult to find a hiking
> partner *before* you hike who will turn out to be compatible
> with you on the trail. This works best with couples who are
> in a long-term relationship. It doesn't work well with best
> friends, "new" significant others, and so on. There are
> exceptions, but this was what I observed on the AT.
>
> Speaking of the AT, I suspect it would be infinitely
> easier to meet and hike with other folks on the AT than on
> the PCT. AT and PCT double-crowners might have some thoughts
> on this.
>
> A couple of practical considerations. At 17, you are going
> to find it impossible to rent a car (probably not a big
> issue though). You might have trouble renting hotel rooms.
>
> The youngest hikers I met on the AT were three brothers
> hiking all of Virginia. They were between 13 and 18. This
> excludes the Witcher family (kids 8 and 11) and Scratch (father)
> and Tuf-e-nuf (son, age 14). Train, also a 2002 hiker, was
> 18.
>
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Message: 23
From: Bighummel@aol.com
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:20:47 EST
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pants on the PCT?
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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I carried and/or wore one pair of "death cotton" Levis the entire way.
The
first thing to wear out was the front of the thighs, where, I wiped my
hands
whenever they needed drying. At a laundramat in Washington I found an old
terry cloth towel, tore it into two narrow strips and stiched it on. It
helped with a bit of insulation in the Fall and provided a better wiping
surface.
Your mileage will certainly vary! I wouldn't recommend this today, but
hey,
it worked okay, and boy, are they comfortable after a 1,000 miles or so!
Greg
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Message: 24
From: Bighummel@aol.com
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:42:08 EST
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pack searching
To: canuck013@yahoo.com, pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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The following info is about a year old and some of the packs may no longer
be
available or have been replaced with new models, however,
Manuf. Name Weight (oz) Size (ci)
Cost
Remington, Pinnacle 54 5,250 $110
Camp Trails, Velocity 68 4,949 $80
McHale, Super SARC 64 5,500 $480
In my humble experience looking at commercial packs like these, there
usually
is ample opportunity to reduce weight by cutting off excess attachments,
bells and whistles that a typical thru-hiker has little use for.
Additionally you can look at slightly smaller packs in the 4,500 ci range
and
look for opportunities to add some volume with attachable pockets, etc.
The
old Kelty, Flight (22 oz, 4,500 ci, $225) would be my pick in this regard
and
has been highly regarded by several past thru-hikers in your hiking/pack
strategy. It is discontinued but still available here and there.
Happy pack hunting,
Greg
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