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[pct-l] Patrick Koreski


I'm assuming that you live in the Salem, Oregon area.  If you are just
getting into hiking and backpacking that's great.   I would suggest that you
contact one of several clubs in the area to get some information and gain
some experience before starting on your quest of the PCT.  One of the most
experienced clubs in the Salem area is the Chemeketans.  They have a year
around calendar of activities that range from day hiking to backpacking to
cross country skiing and snowshoeing, canoeing and kayaking.  The club
offers beginner backpacking classes and trips.  If you would like more
information contact me off line at my e-mail address that appears in this
response.  If you're looking for hiking in the area, go to Borders Books and
get a copy of  William Sullivan's 100 Hikes of the Central Oregon Cascades.
Bill has five books out that covers the entire state of Oregon, but the
Central Oregon Cascades is the one you would be interested in.  This past
weekend I did a three day loop hike with my 15 year old son around Three
Finger Jack.  I will only be available on line until 8-8-02, after which I
will be in the Eagle Cap Wilderness area and Detroit Lakes area for a couple
of weeks.  I applaud your enthusiasm and your goal of hiking the PCT, but
please get some information and experience before you become a trail


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   1. Re: pacific crest trail (Todd "M&M" Ricker)
   2. RE: PCT-L digest, Vol 1 #576 - 4 msgs (Ben Holmes)
   3. Re: buying gear (PTODDF@aol.com)
   4. bears and berries (CMountainDave@aol.com)
   5. Re: A replacement for DEET? (Here, kitty kitty)
   6. Pooh Corner Closing (Bill Person)


Message: 1
From: "Todd \"M&M\" Ricker" <mmatga2me99@trail-life.com>
To: "Backcountry PCT-L" <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>,
   "patrick koreski" <pkor2004@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] pacific crest trail
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 17:00:57 -0400
Organization: Trail-Life.Com

Welcome Patrick,

By posting here is a good start to getting some updated knowledge to hiking
the PCT.  While I have not done the PCT, I have done the AT.  Minus some
differences, doing a thru-hike on the PCT should be about the same.  The
first thing I would recommend is heading out on the weekends and maybe doing
a few overnight hikes.  If you don't have gear, best bet is rent until you
find the gear that you like.  From experience, most sales people usually
recommend their preferences, which may not fit yours.  There are allot of
options out there, and you have plenty of time to sort out your tastes and
styles.  If you have a local hiking club, maybe think about joining up with
them on some of their hikes.  From doing this you can learn from some other
experienced hikers, just be careful to not pick up their bad habits.  Also
check out some books on backpacking and some stories from past thru-hikers.
Check out some journals  ( a good place to start for that would be
www.trailjournals.com, they have plenty to pick from.  I hope to have some
up in the future, but as of yet the site is still new).  Another thing I
would suggest is check out some sites on the PCT, and find some forums to
participate in, just like you did here on the newslist.  As you start with
these things you should come up with some specific questions, such as when
is a good time to start, any problems getting water, what is need for
navigation on the PCT, how am I going to get resupplied, how much money will
it cost, just to mention a few.  Good luck on your endeavor.

Todd "M&M" Ricker

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----- Original Message -----
From: "patrick koreski" <pkor2004@yahoo.com>
To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 4:49 PM
Subject: [pct-l] pacific crest trail

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Hi my name is Patrick Koreski and I'm 16 years old and going into my junior
year of high school.  I'm very interested in thur hiking the PCT.  I would
start hiking the summer of 2004 and take a year off between high school and
college so I could finish the hike.  The problem is that I have no
experience hiking I have gone on one hike before and that was only three
miles long.  I was wondering if you could give me so info on someone or a
club that I can get experience with so I can reach my goal of thur hiking
the PCT starting the summer of 2004.


Patrick Koreski

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 14:10:48 -0700
From: Ben Holmes <beholmes@pacbell.net>
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net, patrick koreski <pkor2004@yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] RE: PCT-L digest, Vol 1 #576 - 4 msgs


Welcome to the wonderful world of backpacking.  I have seen some great
suggestions on this email list already sent to you.  There are kinda two
approaches to backpacking:
1) Go Light - minimalist approach
2) Go Safe - Bring anything you think you will need to make your trip safe.

Each method has its advantages.
Go Light
	Usually a more enjoyable trip.
	Lighter load.
	More Distance covered.
	Less Sore.
	Surprising to discover what you really can do without.
Go Safe
	Usually you are prepared for any circumstance.
	Problems/injures can and do happen.

Each method has its disadvantages.
Go Light
	You might be in a world of hurt if something unpredicatble happens
Go Safe
	You usually are carrying too much stuff, and that makes for a less
enjoyable trip.

Ironically as it may sound, I am of the Go Safe category.  However Im
learning to go lighter and lighter.  I have ALREADY experieced the
conditions of going TOO light, and the other end of go safe, where I had
what I needed when I had an injury.

Im my case, I went too light, and didn't bring my water pump.  I crossed a
few streams but opted not to collect water because I didn't have a way to
filter it.  I ran out of water at the end of the trip.  On the other side, I
injured my foot while hiking,  I was not concerned about having to spend a
night in the desert if I had to.  I had my radio, extra food and emergency
supplies, IF i was in a position where I could not go on any further.

I come from a boy scout background, so most of my experience and decisions
come from that point of view.

Here is the list I use for backpacking

click on other, then packing list 1, and packing list 2.

As was stated in some earlier emails, it varies for each person.
Personally Im not a big fan of REI.  Good information there, but just too
I like Sports Chalet for their selections, and Big 5 for their prices.

Be SURE you get good shoes and socks.
If BACKPACKING, you will need some shoes with ankle support.  If you are
just hiking, you can give up the ankle support and go for a lighter shoe.
Most people here like the NewBalance sneakers.  I prefer something a bit
more traditional.  I just picked up a pair of
Timberline shoes (free range low) on sale at Sports Chalet.  I just love

DO NOT SKIMP on the socks.  Get the thorlo socks.  I like the Lt Hikers Cool

Trust me, your feet will thank you.

Good Luck on your backpacking.
Hope you enjoy.
Ben - Crazy Old Scout

Message: 1
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:57:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: patrick koreski <pkor2004@yahoo.com>
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] buying gear

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I'm just starting out in backpacking what kind of gear do I need to buy to
go on short 3 day hikes.


Message: 3
From: PTODDF@aol.com
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 17:06:16 EDT
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] Re: buying gear


Check out the tutorials on backpackinglight.com before you get hornswoggled
(however it's spelled) into buying heavy weight, "bullet proof" gear. Also
don't miss the backpackinglight mail list on yahoogroups.com. (No direct
connection between web site and mail list though name is the same.)

Best, Todd in Tarzana.


Message: 4
From: CMountainDave@aol.com
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 19:37:41 EDT
To: pct-l@backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] bears and berries

Back from the Bailey Range in the Olympics. Much more snow than normal, with
4' drifts surviving still at 4000'. Saw several goats, the usual deer, a
of 40+ elk and only 1 bear -- probably because the berries weren't ripe yet
-- and he avoided me. We saw only one other party (from Kentucky) and they
were carrying bear barrels because the Visitor Center strongly recommended
them. But the back country ranger station where we checked in merely
suggested them. So nobody took one. In two weeks, the berries will be
ripe. Then there will be no more hungry bears, just gorged ones. I have
watched bears lick berries off of bushes from sun up to sun down on a
mountainside, utterly oblivious to people in the area. I think berry season
is the safest time to be around bears because there is way more than enough
food around to sate their appetites. Just don't try to share the same bush!
 Most of us got in the Park free and paid no user fees because we had
volunteer passes for doing trail maintenance
  No longer getting bogus pct e-mails

 My advice to someone starting out backpacking. Each time you go out, fix
whatever caused you discomfort the last time out. Other options: suffer
and/or give up


Message: 5
From: CMountainDave@aol.com
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 19:47:56 EDT
Subject: Re: [pct-l] A replacement for DEET? (Here, kitty kitty)
To: wjj2001@yahoo.com, pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net

In a message dated 7/29/02 10:23:25 PM, wjj2001@yahoo.com writes:

<< I can just picture it. Tie a piece of catnip around
your neck, and you won't have to swat the skeeters.
You'll also increase the miles hiked since you'll be
running away from a 120-pound cat.

well, like, there  has to be a down side to just about anything. Actually,
the news last night they reported a cougar attack. The guy was chewed and
clawed up pretty gruesomely but he managed to kill the cougar with a pocket


Message: 6
Reply-To: "Bill Person" <bill@billperson.org>
From: "Bill Person" <bill@billperson.org>
To: "Pct-L@Mailman.Backcountry.Net" <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 08:32:55 -0700
Subject: [pct-l] Pooh Corner Closing

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I just had shoulder surgery and Dr. Murphy was my guardian angel.  Soooo...=
 Pooh Corner will be closed until further notice.  Molly can't wait on me a=
nd hikers too and stay sane.  If we have your package or an urgent need, ca=
ll us. Sorry for those we miss.  Safe journey!


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