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[pct-l] RE: PCT-L Foot care Ezine

Read a report that the military conducted a test using 5000 troops, 2500 in
each group.  One group used antiperspirant on their feet before a hike of
either short or long duration, the other group did not.  The first group had
80% less blistering and other related foot problems.  After two months, they
switched groups and the results were the same with those using
antiperspirant.  Something to keep in mind for you next hike.

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Today's Topics:

   1. Bears at Crater Lake (Tony Nitz)
   2. Maps on HikerTrash.net (Tony Nitz)
   3. (Guest Post) Simply Seeking Thru-Hike (Mark Holmes)
   4. Re: Maps on HikerTrash.net (Paul/Maryann Lockey)
   5. New Foot Care Ezine (John Vonhof)
   6. Re: Bears at Crater Lake (CMountainDave@aol.com)
   7. hiking partner (atboi)
   8. Phone calls (Montedodge@aol.com)


Message: 1
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:23:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tony Nitz <prehistorictony@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: PT@HikerTrash.net
To: PCT mail List <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Bears at Crater Lake

Just thought everyone would get a real kick out of
this, since there's been so much discussion about
storing food against bears lately.

As I was hiking through Crater Lake National Park the
week before last, I decided to stay at Mazama
Campground.  They have signs everywhere warning about
the danger of bears in the area coming after your
food.  They warn to keep your food locked in your car,
sealed in a rigid bear resistant canister, or properly
hung.  When I checked out my campsite, I noticed that
there were no bear lockers.  I asked the camp
administrators if there were any, or did I need to
hang my food.  Their response was, "just keep your
food in your tent with you."

The Mazama Campground is run by a concession, and not
by rangers.  This was a really funny exchange, but I
think they need to be better educated there.

OR&WA 2001

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:34:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tony Nitz <prehistorictony@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: PT@HikerTrash.net
To: PCT mail List <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Maps on HikerTrash.net

I just had the opportunity to take a town break, and
catch up on all my e-mail.  I noticed that someone
suggested I be contacted about the incorrect routing
of the PCT in Delorme's Topo USA v3.0.  I just wanted
to assure anyone who may wish to use the maps I've
posted that I've drawn the PCT route myself, using
guide books and personal knowledge of the route, and
did not use the built in trail route.  You will notice
that frequently my solid red line diverges from
Delorme's dotted red line.  Follow my solid line!  I
didn't take the time to erase the dotted line on every
map, yet.  Of course, if anyone notices any mistakes
I've made, please tell me and I'll update the posted
maps, after I finish hiking to Canada, that is.  The
Oregon maps I've produced have proven very accurate
and useful to me on this hike so far, and those few
other hikers I've met and hiked with have offered
their approval.

Delorme knows I've posted these updated maps, and are
not complaining.  I have suggested to them that they
should produce a Trail Gazateer in the format I'm
using, though.  You can view or download them at

Hope this clarifies any concerns anyone had.  Thanks
for all the input so far.

OR&WA 2001

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 14:19:39 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mark Holmes <MarkHolmes@alumni.indiana.edu>
To: PCT-L@mailman.backcountry.net
Reply-To: MarkHolmes@alumni.indiana.edu
Subject: [pct-l] (Guest Post) Simply Seeking Thru-Hike

* Message posted to PCT-L from the National Scenic Trails Website
* by our guest Mark Holmes <MarkHolmes@alumni.indiana.edu>.
* Please use <mailto:MarkHolmes@alumni.indiana.edu> to reply to the sender.

Just thought I would pass along a link to Simply Seeking's thru-hike of the
PCT (http://friends.backcountry.net/simply/), which I'm currently
transcribing.   Currently in Oregon and trucking right along, Stacey as some
of you may know her, is the editor for the AT Companion put out by ALDHA.
Just thought you might like to hike along with her for a bit.

Full Moon AT '95


Message: 4
From: "Paul/Maryann Lockey" <plockey@austin.rr.com>
To: <PT@HikerTrash.net>, "PCT mail List" <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Maps on HikerTrash.net
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 22:12:42 -0500

Hey Tony
    That would be me that made the post about the problem with the PCT on
Delorme's TOPO USA version 3.0. I'm glad to hear that yours was done on your
own and hope that I may be able to call on you occasionally for advice on a
thru hike I'm planning for the summer of 2003. Great job on the maps and



Message: 5
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 21:53:42 -0700
From: John Vonhof <vonhof@pacbell.net>
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] New Foot Care Ezine

Just a short to note to let the list know that I am starting a free monthly
e-zine about foot care topics. Over the years since Fixing Your Feet was
released there has been a lot of online discussion about foot care, and tips
and hints. Foot care is an ongoing topic and we all can learn from each

The Fixing Your Feet Ezine will offer several articles, tips, new products
and product reviews, and related links. You can subscribe for free at

The ezine will be sent to your inbox around the 15th of each month. If you
wish to subscribe, be assured your name and email address will not be shared
or disclosed to any third party. 

John Vonhof
Fixing Your Feet: Prevention and Treatments for Athletes; Second Edition

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Message: 6
From: CMountainDave@aol.com
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 01:07:32 EDT
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Bears at Crater Lake
To: prehistorictony@yahoo.com, pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net

In a message dated 9/3/01 7:39:32 PM, prehistorictony@yahoo.com writes:

<< I
think they need to be better educated there.

PT >>

The bears or the camp managers!? The way authorities keep changing their 
minds on how to deal with the bear "problem," maybe telling you to just keep

your food in your tent is the latest "solution." I wouldn't be a bit 
surprised. So what did you do and HAVE you ever slept with your food if the 
question isn't too indiscreet or personal? I'll be the first to confess. I 
was unfaithful  to the authorities and slept with my food each and every 
night on my thru hike in 99 so I could satiate my lustful cravings for a 
midnight snack, bluffed a bear out of my camp in Yosemite by being very 
aggressive, and how does that song go -- "never lost a minute of sleep 
worrying about the way things might of been." Yeah I know I was just lucky, 
but hey, I'm a lucky guy who "loves the smell of napalm in the morning" (
Apocalypse Now - the surfing in enemy water scene with Robert Duvall) There 
must be dozens of people just waiting for the day my "luck" runs out so they

can all chant in unison, I TOLD YOU SO, STUPID ( shall I add you to the
Tom?)  Never got giardia either in 47 years of drinking unfiltered creek 
water and I don't even own a water filter. At the risk of sounding flippant,

I just possess a real nasty immune system that loves to pick the cilia off 
those nasty germs before dispatching them to their final, excruciatingly 
slow, journey through the colon. I visualize my white blood cells as great 
white sharks just looking and circling for giardia germs. If the nasties get

by them, they have to deal with the boys in the 'hood, my T cells who don't 
like strangers messing around in their territory. They never even heard of 
the live and let live philosophy. Germs get tortured to death and that is 
that, no compassion whatsoever. I like to think that many a germ says UH OH 
when they enter my body and decide to do themselves in rather than face my 
immune system. And if you think visualization is a bunch of bunk, then it
Any comments, doctors? A disclaimer: Kids, don't try this at home. Don't 
ever, ever drink city tap water without chlorine in it no matter what your 
immune system is like because you will DIE if you do and I'll be chanting "I

told you so". God help you if the chlorine injection system fails. Stick
the Evian.  
  On a serious note,4 climbers fell into a crevasse on Mt. Baker, one I 
crossed about a week ago. One of them died. I haven't heard the details yet 
except that they slipped and slid several hundred feet. I'm betting they 
prematurely took off their crampons when they thought the snow had softened 
and then ran into unexpected ice, and slipped. Hard to believe that they 
slipped with crampons on. We all wore crampons and I don't recall a single 
slip by anyone in my party. I will find it very disconcerting to learn that 
they all slipped into that crevasse while wearing crampons because it will 
reinforce that saying by Teton mountaineer Paul Petzdolt that "no matter how

careful you are, sooner or later you'll throw snake eyes."
 Hopefully this post will stir things up a bit. It's getting kinda slow


Message: 7
From: "atboi" <atboi@yahoo.com>
To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 03:19:20 -0700
Subject: [pct-l] hiking partner

where can i find a hiking partner to hike more of the AT or the Pacfic Crest
Trail...i am available to leave in approximately 2 weeks  and can continue
until the weather is so cold, cant continue.. or at least to do a good

i am seeking someone in their 30's, 20's or younger.

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Message: 8
From: Montedodge@aol.com
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 09:00:01 EDT
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] Phone calls

 Got a call last night from Jonathon Ley, who is on the CDT and did the PCT 
1999. He called me from the trail in Colorado camped by a creek next to " 
Flyin Brian" Robinson. Brian had just caught up with Jonathon and the two 
should be in Steamboat Springs in the next two days. All is well and they
in good health. Jonathon thinks thre are about 16 thru-hikers that he's met 
so far on the CDT. Having someone to hike with and talk to can be a big plus

on this vast trail. Call was via satalite phone!!  I will hit white pass
week end and see a few old friends I met in at the kick-off. 


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