[pct-l] Closures because of bear activity

[java2@ix.netcom.com (tom hopkins)]

No bear in his/her right mind would hang out in Vidette Meadows with all those mosquitos!
Tom in Sacramento

The Dude wrote:

> I would hardly call 3 separate succesfull trips in three different years in the most problem bear areas "passing on the curve".  Seems to me that using stealth camping in Vidette Meadow and bear alley in Yosemite put it to a very difficult test.
>
> Let me remind you that not only did I keep my food, but I never even SAW any bears.  Furthermore, I would certainly fight any fine for using the counter-balance method successfully.  How can it be improper food storage when it works?  The proof is in the pudding.
>
> peace,
> dude
>
> > "Reynolds, WT" <reynolds@iLAN.com> "'The Dude'" <dude@coruscant.net>, pct-l@backcountry.net RE: [pct-l] Closures because of bear activityDate: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 05:59:54 -0700
> >
> >Dude-
> >
> >Stealth camping is like passing on a curve. It works most of the time. When
> >it does you saved 1.7 pounds in your pack and had the thrill of beating the
> >bears and the rangers. When it doesn't you have made a mess of your backpack
> >and habituated further another bear to human food. Ultimately that bear will
> >be distroyed. Hopefully, that bear won't hurt a human before it is.
> >
> >Tom
> >
> >PS: I think that the fine is up to $5000. Yours was not, potentially, a
> >cheap thrill.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: The Dude [mailto:dude@coruscant.net]
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:37 PM
> >To: pct-l@backcountry.net
> >Subject: RE: [pct-l] Closures because of bear activity
> >
> >
> >wow!!  what do they say about stealth camping?
> >
> >I just got back from Tahoe to Yosemite and employed stealth camping with
> >great success (didnt even see any bears).  We passed tons of people with
> >cannisters who thought that we were nuts, but this is the 3rd time that I
> >have used stealth and never even saw a bear.
> >...seems to work for me.
> >
> >> Ken & Marcia Powers <kdpo@pacbell.net> pct-l <pct-l@backcountry.net>
> >[pct-l] Closures because of bear activityDate: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 12:21:01
> >-0700
> >>
> >>Thought I would fuel the fire a bit...
> >>
> >>Marcia and I recently returned from checking out the CDT. We plan to start
> >>June 2002!
> >>
> >>We visited Glacier National Park and Yellowstone National Park because we
> >>had heard of the difficulty in getting permits in the parks.
> >>    Both parks require hikers to camp in designated sites. Neither park is
> >>entirely happy assigning sites more that 10-12 miles apart. (Although Jim
> >>and Ginny got a 28 mile day - they didn't want.)
> >>    Both parks will close sites due to "bear activity", which means if a
> >>bear has been raiding a campsite it will be closed for a period of time.
> >>
> >>Imagine trying to plan you thru-hike, negotiating camping sites, then
> >>showing up to find that one of the sites is closed due to bear activity!
> >>
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