[ft-l] Nearly run over on the trail

[mjllotten@sprynet.com (Otten Family)]

Mark, Great Idea.  As a fellow Boy Scout leader, I find that most people do
not know very much about the FTA, its purpose, or the regulations and rules.
Many responsible leaders would be more than willing to relay information to
their troops.  This would benefit all and hopefully involve more in the
FTA's efforts.

In a larger scope of thinking, this would also open up sources of
information to many who think that Florida is all beaches with very little
to offer in the outdoors.  If is wasn't for the FTA, I would not know half
the great places I do now.

Mike Otten
Tr 743, Palm Bay




----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Nickerson" <mark@nickpvb.com>
To: <ft-l@backcountry.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [ft-l] Nearly run over on the trail


> Bob,
>
> A lot of groups need to be educated, not just that one scout troop.
> Perhaps a mailing to the nine Boy Scout councils about our trail and its
> purpose (inc limitations) is overdue.  The organizations are present to
> distribute the information should they choose to.
>
> I would further encourage the FTA to "partner" with the BSA councils.
> Perhaps we could offer patches for hiking, LNT and conservation
> projects.  The scouts and their leaders would love it.  We could have a
> web-page, e.g. http://www.florida-trail.org/scouts where the information
> is available and encourage all scouting groups to link to it.
>
> I recognize this will not guarantee perfect usage.  But it should
> improve things overall.
>
> Please contact me off-list for mailing addresses to the councils.
>
> Mark Nickerson
> Scoutmaster, Troop 288
> http://www.nickpvb.com/t288/
> North Florida Council
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Sartini" <r.sartini@rcn.com>
> To: "Hale, Pamela" <phale@harris.com>; "Florida Trail Mailing List"
> <ft-l@backcountry.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [ft-l] Nearly run over on the trail
>
>
> You might be interested to know that on the FT through the Tosachatchee
> Reserve on Sunday I encountered boyscouts on bikes on the trail, WITH
> the
> troop leaders. If they don't get it who will. We need to think of a way
> to
> let people know what the FT is. At least among those who use it a lot.
>
> I also encountered numerous Turkey hunters on the trail in Bull Creek. I
> wasn't sure if I wasn't supposed to be there or they we'ren't. But
> hunting
> right on th e trail is probably asking for it. Nice guys though.
>
>
> Bamboo Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hale, Pamela" <phale@harris.com>
> To: "Florida Trail Mailing List" <ft-l@backcountry.net>
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:41 PM
> Subject: RE: [ft-l] Nearly run over on the trail
>
>
> > IMHO, incidents like these need to be reported to the land manager.
> There
> never
> > seems to be enough money in their budgets for rule enforcement;
> however
> the
> > squeaky wheel does get the grease.  The more complaints they receive
> on a
> > particular infraction, the more likely they are to respond to it.
> >
> > ~Pam
> > Knowledge is Power
> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brad Grant [mailto:clangrant@sfcc.net]
> > Sent: 14 March, 2003 7:16 PM
> > To: Florida Trail Mailing List
> > Subject: [ft-l] Nearly run over on the trail
> >
> >
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > Hi all,
> > Had a situation happen earlier this week near the sink on the trail
> south
> of
> > Hopkins Prairie. I came around a corner on the trail and was almost
> run
> over by
> > a large guy on a mountain bike and he was followed by 4 others. I got
> one
> of
> > them stopped and informed them that the FT was not a bike path.
> Basically
> I was
> > told that I and the others that had already informed them that they
> passed
> on
> > the trail like me could basically go copulate with myself. Oh to be a
> Ranger for
> > just 5 minutes. I started looking at the signs on the posts as I
> continued
> on to
> > Hidden Pond and I noticed that not all of the little "no" signs, do
> not
> contain
> > all the same "no" items. Usually there are ATVs, Motorcycles and etc.
> but
> bikes
> > only show up now and then.
> >
> > What really ticked me off about the whole situation is that I was nice
> and
> > polite about how I conversed with them but they decided to show their
> preverbal
> > hind ends about it. I was not demanding them to get off now, just
> informing them
> > that it was a hiking only trail. To add salt to the wound they did not
> even
> > apologize for almost running me over. Oh well.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > PS. Trip Report to follow later.
> > --
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