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[ft-l] Re: FT-L digest, Vol 1 #440 - 1 msg



I have also encountered similar situations with both bike riders and
horse riders. In my opinion, the horse riders have been a much more
obnoxiuos group than the bike riders. Both groups, however, don't hold a
candle to airboat operators when it comes to obnoxious and anti-social
behavior on the trail. YES - On The Trail - I have been almost run over
by yahoos running their airboats through the woods along the hiking
trail! They are so loud that you cannot tell where they are until they
come into sight, and theyt can be moving rather fast across grass or
loose sand.

Personally, I would like to see FTA open negotiations with the bike and
horse people to bring them into the process of using trails properly
even if this means eventually having multi-group use of the trails. They
use the trails anyway, lets get them to contribute their time, money,
and people resources to help build and maintain the trails. Building
such alliances with the individual contacts and friendships that will
result should  bring a wider awareness of acceptable behavior on the
trail. It is obvious to me that the present situation is not good and is
slowly going downhill.

JMHO. :)

- Carl

Skip Neill wrote:
>
> I have had situations much like yours down on the trails at Myakka. I had a
> guy almost run me over and when I told him the trail was for foot traffic
> only, he said, "When you guys start taking as good care of the bike trails
> as you do the foot trails, I'll ride over there." He did not volunteer to
> help. I almost always have a camera. I take their picture and tell them I am
> going to give copies to the park rangers at the gate. I also carry a cell
> phone. As soon as they are out of sight I call the Rangers.
>
> Skip Neill
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> > Reply-To: <jfm@johnmeyer.net>
> > From: "John F. Meyer, Jr." <jfm43@johnmeyer.net>
> > To: <FT-L@mailman.backcountry.net>
> > Subject: RE: [ft-l] Almost ran over on the trail
> > Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:06:07 -0500
> >
> > As an avid mountain biker and hiker, people like this really piss me
> > off!  Why would they even want to mountain bike on a hiking trail
> > anyway?  It's boring!
> >
> > All the things that make a great bike trail great would never be on a
> > foot trail, and vice versa.  Heck, some of the best foot trails aren't
> > rideable at all and some of the best bike trails, you wouldn't want to
> > walk (even if there were no bikes on that trail that day).
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > John F. Meyer, Jr.    e-mail&MSN:jfm@johnmeyer.net     www.johnmeyer.net
> > Yahoo,Excite,AT&T,Jabber,Odigo:jmeyer43  ICQ:176593636  AOL:jmeyer043
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> > #-----Original Message-----
> > #From: Brad Grant
> > #Sent: Saturday 15 March 2003 8:56a
> > #To: ft-l@backcountry.net
> > #Subject: [ft-l] Almost ran over on the trail
> > #
> > #Had a situation happen earlier this week near the sink on the
> > #trail south of Hopkins Prairie. I came around a corner on the
> > #trail and was almost run over by a large guy on a mountain
> > #bike and he was followed by 4 others. I got one of them
> > #stopped and informed them that the FT was not a bike path.
> > #Basically I was told that I and the others that had already
> > #informed them that they passed on the trail like me could
> > #basically go copulate with myself. Oh to be a Ranger for just
> > #5 minutes. I started looking at the signs on the posts as I
> > #continued on to Hidden Pond and I noticed that not all of the
> > #little "no" signs, do not contain all the same "no" items.
> > #Usually there are ATVs, Motorcycles and etc. but bikes only
> > #show up now and then.
> > #
> > #What really ticked me off about the whole situation is that I
> > #was nice and polite about how I conversed with them but they
> > #decided to show their preverbal hind ends about it. I was not
> > #demanding them to get off now, just informing them that it was
> > #a hiking only trail. To add salt to the wound they did not
> > #even apologize for almost running me over. Oh well.
> >
> >
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