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Mario and I hiked through and over the big hatchets in 2001.  In idaho, where
i live, you can jump any fence that is not signed private property and i
assumed that to be the case down there, as well  We found a half mile stretch
that wasn't signed.  The big hatchets just looked too inviting.  I highly
recommend this route.  We met the head rancher of the Grey Ranch and he was
upset at our route selection: however, we met a bunch of locals in the Hachita
Saloon who told us he just leases the land from the BLM.  I'm not sure, but if
i hike the cdt again that's where i'll be.  We had little problems finding
water when referring to the blm maps.  We did carry seven litres.  In any case
you probably need to worry more about drug smugglers.  That being said, have
fun.  John aka gimli
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> 1. Gila Bike and Hike (Marcia Powers)
> 2. Re: Which CDT Starting Point (Slyatpct@aol.com)
> 3. Re: Which CDT Starting Point (Ken Powers)
> 4. RE: Which CDT Starting Point (Bill Hendrickson (E-mail 2))
> 5. RE: Outfitter in Silver City, NM (Bill Hendrickson (E-mail 2))
> 6. Food (Paul Magnanti)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:04:17 -0800
>From: Marcia Powers
>To: cdt-l@mailman.backcountry.net
>Subject: [cdt-l] Gila Bike and Hike
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>Westcliffe lists Gila Bike and Hike on 103 East College St. Silver City,
>88061. I called owners Jack & Michael (505) 388-3222 who are willing to
>receive boxes, and have food, fuel (white gas top bottle off), but named
>another source for alcohol. They have dehydrated food and batteries and
>bulbs. I talked to Jack and he would like to meet thru hikers.
>
>Jack also said that the 2002 monsoon season was good with a nice Dec Snow
>storm but it's beginning to look like a low water year for NM and CO again.
>
>Marcia
>GottaWalk
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>From: "Tom"
>To:
>Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:56 AM
>Subject: Re: [cdt-l] stoves. ice axes n' stuff
>
>
>You're right, Swiss.
>I refer to it on my NM resource page at
>http://www.7cities.net/%7Eroadrunner/CDTinNM.html , but I don't know the
>name of it or its location. Can anyone help with that info?
>Tom Bombadil
>
>On 1/23/03 8:45 AM, "claudia Tuor" wrote:
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> >> Silver City - big enough, but we didn't see any outfitters
> > There IS an outfitter in Silver City. Small, but it has lots of things a
>hiker
> > might need.
> > Swiss
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>From: Slyatpct@aol.com
>Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 13:23:44 EST
>Subject: Re: [cdt-l] Which CDT Starting Point
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>In a message dated 1/23/2003 12:14:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>desertrat@swnm.com writes:
>
> > Has anyone done the
> > one through the Floridas?
> >
>
>Yeah, well kind of.
>
>We didn't go over the Floridas, but around them. If it wasn't our first day
>out, wasn't as hot as it was, had some trail legs and a little more
>confidence with finding the cross country route, we may have tried to go
>over!
>
>The mountains look great and I hope to do them the next time. Maybe even see
>some Ibex!
>
>Sly
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>Message: 3
>From: "Ken Powers"
>To:
>Subject: Re: [cdt-l] Which CDT Starting Point
>Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:08:19 -0800
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>I have been waiting to see what response this question got. Hmmm, no
>opinions on starting locations.
>
>We started at Antelope Wells. That allowed us to stash water along the
>highway between Hachita and the border. It is a roadwalk, but we made great
>miles for it being the start - 45 miles into Hachita in about 1 1/2 days.
>This route also avoids private lands. I know others who started at Common
>Ground. They roughly followed BLM roads to the highway, and also stashed
>water. Seems the water availabilty is the key to where to start.
>
>We talked to one of the ranchers along the highway. We learned early how
>serious these people are about land ownership issues. He didn't care if we
>pumped water from his cow tanks, but would deny giving us permission if
>anything went to court. He didn't want any legal responsibility for sick
>hikers. Then he told us he would have hikers arrested for tresspassing if
>they were on some areas of his land. These areas seemed like they were not
>near any of the routes CDT hikers speak of.
>
>I think you will find that the starting point is still a personal preference
>in sourthern NM. It is nice to hear of someone in the area who is interested
>in the CDT and can provide information to the list.
>
>My thoughts
>Ken
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>From: "Bill Hendrickson (E-mail 2)"
>To:
>Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 9:14 AM
>Subject: [cdt-l] Which CDT Starting Point
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> > I have seen 3 different locations for the southern point of the CDT.
> > Antelope Wells and up through Animas, East of Antelope Wells and up
>through
> > The Big Hachet, and Columbus up through the Floridas. I am new in the
>Deming
> > area and somewhat familiar with the Floridas. Just took a ride down to the
> > Big Hachet for a look-see.
> >
> > Based on the current private land issues, water availability, etc of the
>two
> > paths in the "Boot Heel", which is better or available? Has anyone done
>the
> > one through the Floridas?
> > Bill Hendrickson , DesertRat
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>From: "Bill Hendrickson \(E-mail 2\)"
>To:
>Subject: RE: [cdt-l] Which CDT Starting Point
>Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:36:25 -0700
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>I have been into the Floridas several times. Usually up and back in a few
>locations, but not full length. I have not seen any Ibex, well just one
>skull from one a cat probably caught and ate. Reports of a few mountain
>lions has made it exciting. Supposedly you can pretty much walk the ridge
>line except for one part near the southern end, which will require a steep
>down and uphill climb. And water is always an issue, but I am getting info
>on where the water catches are.
>
>Also, if you take that route through Cookes Range, there is a really good
>display of Petrogylphs and a few caves that would be a good stopping place.
>I would not camp in the caves since they are sort of protected. If anyone is
>interested, I can provide the Lat/Long or UTM coordinates.
>
>Bill, DesertRat
>
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>In a message dated 1/23/2003 12:14:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>desertrat@swnm.com writes:
>
> > Has anyone done the
> > one through the Floridas?
> >
>
>Yeah, well kind of.
>
>We didn't go over the Floridas, but around them. If it wasn't our first day
>out, wasn't as hot as it was, had some trail legs and a little more
>confidence with finding the cross country route, we may have tried to go
>over!
>
>The mountains look great and I hope to do them the next time. Maybe even
>see
>some Ibex!
>
>Sly
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>Message: 5
>From: "Bill Hendrickson \(E-mail 2\)"
>To:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 13:55:02 -0700
>Subject: [cdt-l] RE: Outfitter in Silver City, NM
>Reply-To: cdt-l@mailman.backcountry.net
>
>Gila Hike and Bike. When you go into downtown Silver City on Hwy 180, turn
>south on Hwy 90 about 8 blocks the store will be on your left at the
>intersection of College Av. 103 E. College Av. 505-388-3222
>
>Bill, DesertRat
>
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>[mailto:cdt-l-admin@mailman.backcountry.net]On Behalf Of Tom
>Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 9:57 AM
>To: cdt-l@mailman.backcountry.net
>Subject: Re: [cdt-l] stoves. ice axes n' stuff
>
>
>You're right, Swiss.
>I refer to it on my NM resource page at
>http://www.7cities.net/%7Eroadrunner/CDTinNM.html , but I don't know the
>name of it or its location. Can anyone help with that info?
>Tom Bombadil
>
>On 1/23/03 8:45 AM, "claudia Tuor" wrote:
>
> > [ Converted text/html to text/plain ]
> >
> >> Silver City - big enough, but we didn't see any outfitters
> > There IS an outfitter in Silver City. Small, but it has lots of things a
>hiker
> > might need.
> > Swiss
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>Message: 6
>Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 06:40:11 -0800 (PST)
>From: Paul Magnanti
>To: cdt-l@mailman.backcountry.net
>Subject: [cdt-l] Food
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> >>Mags you must have taken the scenic route! Isn't it
> >>only three days or
> >> so to TM from VVR?
>
>
>Doh! Meant to Say KM to VVR. I don't have much
>storage capacity in this brain. Sometimes things get
>scrambled. :-)
>
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