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but if your atcked and you have it it will chae the bear off. If you
dont have it and your atcked your dead

James McCreight wrote:

>I'll also have to mention that it is not true that a can of bear spray
>gurantees you will not get attacked
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>On Sun, 6 Apr 2003, Dave Fales wrote:
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>>well I dsiagree I have a lot more eexperince with bears and you can't
>>beat bear spray I have seen more then enough peopel chased by bear with
>>bells. I have worked in all the major parks int his area dn the forest
>>and can aof bear spray is not that heavy and your gurnteed to not get
>>atacked
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>>James McCreight wrote:
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>>>I am of the opposite opinion on this. I lived in MT for 5 years, have
>>>spent a perty large amount of time in GNP and the Bob as well as
>>>yellowstone. I have never carried pepper spray at any time and I did alot
>>>of solo trips. I carried bear bells for a while but those get really
>>>annoying fast so I keep them as backup for when my voice goes hoarse,
>>>plus I doubt they are really that effective.
>>>My opinion is that you just have to be smart about it. A bear dosent want
>>>a confrontation, it just wants food and wants to not feel threatened. If
>>>you can see well in front of you and arround you and there is no griz then
>>>you are safe. It you are walking through the forest or going around a bend
>>>in the trail where you cant see you had better be making some noise. Also
>>>keep the wind in mind. If the wind is at your back it is helping to warn
>>>bears down the trail that you are coming by providing your scent and
>>>sound. If the wind is blowing the other way or blowing really hard you've
>>>got to be really cautious. As far as making noise, a combination of
>>>clapping and loud talking helps save the voice. Any kind of noise maker is
>>>a good idea especially if it's another person.. going solo is hard on the
>>>voice.
>>>I still remember this one time I was coming down from Hole-in-the-wall in
>>>GNP, the day after seeing a momma griz and two cubs, and I was rapping the
>>>lyrics of a sublime song perty loudly for my entertainment and that of the
>>>bears when these other hikers appeared around the bend in the trail... so
>>>embarassing! A few days later on that trip, at fifty mountain, some idiot
>>>who had bear spray saw a griz about 300 yards from camp. He was so freaked
>>>out that he ran back to camp and was shouting how he saw a bear with his
>>>arms up as he accidentally pulled the trigger for an instant, an instant
>>>that sent a cloud of cayenne right at me and my tent. He's lucky I didnt
>>>maul him when I was able to breathe right again.
>>>Call me an idealist but I think attitude (and smarts) is everything. If
>>>you are terrified of the bear the bear will know something is wrong. If
>>>you are calm the bear will be too. I guess the most important thing is to
>>>make sure you feel safe, if the spray does it for you then great.
>>>Also note that if you plan on going into Canada, they have regulations on
>>>which bear sprays they will allow across the border. If you drive to
>>>Waterton you may have to leave your spray at cheif mountain customs. Thats
>>>a pain in the ass if you're planning on crossing the lake to Goat Haunt to
>>>start your trip. I could be wrong but I think counter assualt is one they
>>>dont let in... a friend of mine had to leave his counter assualt
>>>there. You'll want to check with customs to believe me on this one.
>>>best wishes
>>>J
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>>>On Sun, 6 Apr 2003, Dave Fales wrote:
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>>>>you should have it for all secttion if you get malled by a bear or have
>>>>problms the ranger we make you there joke.  When  I worked in
>>>>yellowsoten park we alwys laughed at idiots that got atacked with out
>>>>bear spray you can clip it on the outside of the pack and then you never
>>>>have to worry you have it.
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>>>>Doug and Sue wrote:
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>>>>>Do most CDT hikers pack pepper spray for the Yellowstone/MT section of the
>>>>>trail?  If so, what brand?
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