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[cdt-l] Packing Pepper Spray

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Soory but bear spray is alowed in canda

James McCreight wrote:

>I am of the opposite opinion on this. I lived in MT for 5 years, have
>spent a perty large amount of time in GNP and the Bob as well as
>yellowstone. I have never carried pepper spray at any time and I did alot
>of solo trips. I carried bear bells for a while but those get really
>annoying fast so I keep them as backup for when my voice goes hoarse,
>plus I doubt they are really that effective.
>My opinion is that you just have to be smart about it. A bear dosent want
>a confrontation, it just wants food and wants to not feel threatened. If
>you can see well in front of you and arround you and there is no griz then
>you are safe. It you are walking through the forest or going around a bend
>in the trail where you cant see you had better be making some noise. Also
>keep the wind in mind. If the wind is at your back it is helping to warn
>bears down the trail that you are coming by providing your scent and
>sound. If the wind is blowing the other way or blowing really hard you've
>got to be really cautious. As far as making noise, a combination of
>clapping and loud talking helps save the voice. Any kind of noise maker is
>a good idea especially if it's another person.. going solo is hard on the
>I still remember this one time I was coming down from Hole-in-the-wall in
>GNP, the day after seeing a momma griz and two cubs, and I was rapping the
>lyrics of a sublime song perty loudly for my entertainment and that of the
>bears when these other hikers appeared around the bend in the trail... so
>embarassing! A few days later on that trip, at fifty mountain, some idiot
>who had bear spray saw a griz about 300 yards from camp. He was so freaked
>out that he ran back to camp and was shouting how he saw a bear with his
>arms up as he accidentally pulled the trigger for an instant, an instant
>that sent a cloud of cayenne right at me and my tent. He's lucky I didnt
>maul him when I was able to breathe right again.
>Call me an idealist but I think attitude (and smarts) is everything. If
>you are terrified of the bear the bear will know something is wrong. If
>you are calm the bear will be too. I guess the most important thing is to
>make sure you feel safe, if the spray does it for you then great.
>Also note that if you plan on going into Canada, they have regulations on
>which bear sprays they will allow across the border. If you drive to
>Waterton you may have to leave your spray at cheif mountain customs. Thats
>a pain in the ass if you're planning on crossing the lake to Goat Haunt to
>start your trip. I could be wrong but I think counter assualt is one they
>dont let in... a friend of mine had to leave his counter assualt
>there. You'll want to check with customs to believe me on this one.
>best wishes
>On Sun, 6 Apr 2003, Dave Fales wrote:
>>you should have it for all secttion if you get malled by a bear or have
>>problms the ranger we make you there joke.  When  I worked in
>>yellowsoten park we alwys laughed at idiots that got atacked with out
>>bear spray you can clip it on the outside of the pack and then you never
>>have to worry you have it.
>>Doug and Sue wrote:
>>>Do most CDT hikers pack pepper spray for the Yellowstone/MT section of the
>>>trail?  If so, what brand?
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