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well I dsiagree I have a lot more eexperince with bears and you can't
beat bear spray I have seen more then enough peopel chased by bear with
bells. I have worked in all the major parks int his area dn the forest
and can aof bear spray is not that heavy and your gurnteed to not get
atacked

James McCreight wrote:

>I am of the opposite opinion on this. I lived in MT for 5 years, have
>spent a perty large amount of time in GNP and the Bob as well as
>yellowstone. I have never carried pepper spray at any time and I did alot
>of solo trips. I carried bear bells for a while but those get really
>annoying fast so I keep them as backup for when my voice goes hoarse,
>plus I doubt they are really that effective.
>My opinion is that you just have to be smart about it. A bear dosent want
>a confrontation, it just wants food and wants to not feel threatened. If
>you can see well in front of you and arround you and there is no griz then
>you are safe. It you are walking through the forest or going around a bend
>in the trail where you cant see you had better be making some noise. Also
>keep the wind in mind. If the wind is at your back it is helping to warn
>bears down the trail that you are coming by providing your scent and
>sound. If the wind is blowing the other way or blowing really hard you've
>got to be really cautious. As far as making noise, a combination of
>clapping and loud talking helps save the voice. Any kind of noise maker is
>a good idea especially if it's another person.. going solo is hard on the
>voice.
>I still remember this one time I was coming down from Hole-in-the-wall in
>GNP, the day after seeing a momma griz and two cubs, and I was rapping the
>lyrics of a sublime song perty loudly for my entertainment and that of the
>bears when these other hikers appeared around the bend in the trail... so
>embarassing! A few days later on that trip, at fifty mountain, some idiot
>who had bear spray saw a griz about 300 yards from camp. He was so freaked
>out that he ran back to camp and was shouting how he saw a bear with his
>arms up as he accidentally pulled the trigger for an instant, an instant
>that sent a cloud of cayenne right at me and my tent. He's lucky I didnt
>maul him when I was able to breathe right again.
>Call me an idealist but I think attitude (and smarts) is everything. If
>you are terrified of the bear the bear will know something is wrong. If
>you are calm the bear will be too. I guess the most important thing is to
>make sure you feel safe, if the spray does it for you then great.
>Also note that if you plan on going into Canada, they have regulations on
>which bear sprays they will allow across the border. If you drive to
>Waterton you may have to leave your spray at cheif mountain customs. Thats
>a pain in the ass if you're planning on crossing the lake to Goat Haunt to
>start your trip. I could be wrong but I think counter assualt is one they
>dont let in... a friend of mine had to leave his counter assualt
>there. You'll want to check with customs to believe me on this one.
>best wishes
>J
>
>On Sun, 6 Apr 2003, Dave Fales wrote:
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>>you should have it for all secttion if you get malled by a bear or have
>>problms the ranger we make you there joke.  When  I worked in
>>yellowsoten park we alwys laughed at idiots that got atacked with out
>>bear spray you can clip it on the outside of the pack and then you never
>>have to worry you have it.
>>
>>Doug and Sue wrote:
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>>>Do most CDT hikers pack pepper spray for the Yellowstone/MT section of the
>>>trail?  If so, what brand?
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