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[CDT-L] Poor Betsy





I find it *funny* how poor Betsy who is *new* to the list just wanted her
question *answered* and now everyone is *discussing* points that are
basically *irrelevent* to what she was asking in the first place. Betsy,
don't feel like you asked a bad question that caused all sorts of problems!
The first *response* was the best. 

"Betsy, there is no official route through much of New Mexico, and much that

is "official" you really don't want to do.  There are routes shown on the 
BLM maps that don't exist on the ground, and official stretches (in the 
Gila) that haven't been maintained in years. The map we got from the Forest 
Service showed incomplete sections there, even though that was one of the 
first stretches of trail to be designated. There is one "official" section 
through the Malpais that even the BLM (which managed it) told us not to 
take, as it it was 40 miles waterless.  That may have changed, but that was 
the situation when we went through there.  I suggest you join CDTS and get a

copy of Jim Wolf's recommended New Mexico Route. " 
"Dividends (the CDTS newsletter) gives alternate routes and 
updates on the existing routes.  Another alternative is to contact the 
Mountain Club of New Mexico (they have a web site).  They did a trail 
reroute last year of the 50 mile stretch south of Cuba." 


  
    So now I timidly ask if anyone can reccomend a good trail guide for the
CDT for Colorado and Wyoming? Also does anyone know of a good web site for
buying competitively priced gear? I'm pretty poor. :-( 


"Drink Coffee, it's not just a motto but a way of life!" 
Nicholas 
  


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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=334581903-19112000>Thanks 
for all the responses! I've ordered a copy of David Patterson's book, and am 
pulling out the maps to help put perspective on everyone's comments. Sifting 
thru all the posts, I am getting a feel for the state and character of the CDT. 
This is some of what appeals about it. I grew up with the desert and mountain 
wildness of the southwest. Exploring it without white blazes, shelters or 
mile-by-mile guidebooks seems more appropriate. I will reserve judgement on the 
purest/non-purest thing for now. Even on the AT, each individual sets their own 
definition of "purist"... follow every white blaze, slackpacking (or not), etc. 
The CDT just has more variables to consider. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=334581903-19112000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=334581903-19112000>Planning is half the fun,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=334581903-19112000>Betsy</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN 
class=334581903-19112000>&nbsp;</SPAN>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
Nicholas Canuso [mailto:canuso@netzero.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 
18, 2000 5:50 PM<BR><B>To:</B> CDTL<BR><B>Subject:</B> [CDT-L] Poor 
Betsy<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"></FONT>I find it *funny* how poor Betsy 
  who is *new* to the list just wanted her question *answered* and now everyone 
  is *discussing* points that are basically *irrelevent* to what she was asking 
  in the first place. Betsy, don't feel like you asked a bad question that 
  caused all sorts of problems! The first *response* was the best. 
  <P><I>"Betsy, there is no official route through much of New Mexico, and much 
  that</I> <BR><I>is "official" you really don't want to do.&nbsp; There are 
  routes shown on the</I> <BR><I>BLM maps that don't exist on the ground, and 
  official stretches (in the</I> <BR><I>Gila) that haven't been maintained in 
  years. The map we got from the Forest</I> <BR><I>Service showed incomplete 
  sections there, even though that was one of the</I> <BR><I>first stretches of 
  trail to be designated. There is one "official" section</I> <BR><I>through the 
  Malpais that even the BLM (which managed it) told us not to</I> <BR><I>take, 
  as it it was 40 miles waterless.&nbsp; That may have changed, but that was</I> 
  <BR><I>the situation when we went through there.&nbsp; I suggest you join CDTS 
  and get a</I> <BR><I>copy of Jim Wolf's recommended New Mexico Route. "</I> 
  <BR><I>"Dividends (the CDTS newsletter) gives alternate routes and</I> 
  <BR><I>updates on the existing routes.&nbsp; Another alternative is to contact 
  the</I> <BR><I>Mountain Club of New Mexico (they have a web site).&nbsp; They 
  did a trail</I> <BR><I>reroute last year of the 50 mile stretch south of 
  Cuba."</I><I></I> 
  <P><I>&nbsp;</I> <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; So now I timidly ask if anyone can 
  reccomend a good trail guide for the CDT for Colorado and Wyoming? Also does 
  anyone know of a good web site for buying competitively priced gear? I'm 
  pretty poor. :-( 
  <P>"Drink Coffee, it's not just a motto but a way of life!" <BR>Nicholas 
  <BR>&nbsp; </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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