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Re: [at-l] Hammocks
My local Walmart doesn't sell ham hocks, and neitherr do the military
surplus stores. But my neighborhood grocery does and for less than $17.
If you want them smoked, it'll cost a little more. In Texas, it's legal
to smoke ham hocks. Roll another, just like the other one.
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, David F. Addleton wrote:
> > What sort of hammock is this?
> I've got something called a "marina" hammock from Walmart @ $17. It's
> nylon. On sale you can find 'em for $13 or so near the end of the season.
> I think Ozark or some other cheap out-door company sells them. The same
> hammock gets sold in military surplus stores for twice that.
> > I have one of the South American type ....
> I've looked at catalogues for those. The Mayan looks like an interesting
> hammock to me. The price puts me off, though, and I've not ordered one yet.
> > ....which
> > is very wide (if you can get it to stay spread) but I don't 'sink' into
> > like they show in the ads. The thing wants to stay in a clump 4-6 inches
> > wide.
> My sister in law has the same problem another "marina" hammock, and I have
> a second hammock that does the same thing. The one I use most often,
> though, has "broken in" quite well. I suspect, also, that a small
> modification I made to it helped to break it in sooner. What I did was run
> a length of parachute cord from one ring, in and out through the hammock on
> one edge to the other ring; same thing on the other side. This rope does
> not stretch as much as the hammock itself, and thereby keeps the two sides
> higher than the rest of the hammock into which I sink very comfortably.
> > I tie the ropes about 6 feet off the ground with the center at a
> > sitting height (18-20 inches off the ground). When I lie on (note I
> > say "in") it my weight tends to pull the sides in under rather than
> > me. It's really easy to roll out of.
> When breaking-in a hammock, I use those light-weight, aluminium 'beeners,
> two or three, to bring the edges together above me when lying in the
> hammock. This helps to "train" the hammock by streching the inner sections
> more than the edges and improves with time. Or, you can use the method I
> suggested above. Be careful using the method with a new cord, though, so
> you don't put so much tension on the edges that the edges support all your
> weight. You'll wind up breaking the new cord and probably part of the
> hammock. That happened to me at the Plum Orchard Shelter below Bly Gap.
> Quite a surprise, let me tell you. But it was easy to fix with a few knots
> and spare cord, though I didn't do it right the first time. In repairing
> it I put too little tension on one side. Later, while sleeping on the north
> side of Albert Mtn, the hammock slowly, slowly twisted toward the looser
> side. In the morning it dumped me on the ground. Those are the only two
> "mishaps" I've enjoyed with my hammock.
> Also, I try not to hang the hammock too loosely. I'm about 5' 7" and tie
> off the hammock at either end at shoulder height, pulling the hammock tight
> enough that it stays almost straight, without putting too much tension on
> the hammock. I test it by sitting in it. It usually stretches to sitting
> height, and springs back a few inches when lying in it.
> I've never measured it, but I think my hammock is about 8ft in length from
> ring to ring. I've slept between trees where the ring was next to the tree
> (about 8 ft apart) to where I needed to tie a separate piece of webbing
> around one of the trees and clip on the separate piece tied around the
> tree: about 25-30 ft apart.
> > The one I use to camp with is a military style 'jungle hammock'. The top
> > it is inadequate in a heavy rain though and doesn't make enough covered
> > area for gear/cooking etc. I've thought about removing the top, replacing
> > it with more bug mesh and using it under a tarp which was hung
> I have for winter camping a Clarke Jungle Hammock. You can buy it on the
> internet. I think Trailplace has a link to it. It's rather expensive at
> $200+, but weighs in at around 5 or 6 lbs. It's built-in tarp cannot be
> removed without ruining the whole contraption. It comes with pockets below
> the sleeping area that you can reach while lying in the hammock. You can
> store all your gear in the six pockets which also provide insulation and
> shelter from the wind. It holds up very well in heavy down-pours, but you
> need to seam seal it before you use it and remember, don't let your kids
> play on it, 'cause they'll create a problem with the attachement between
> the insect netting and the tarp.
> I slept through a night in the teens on the Coosa Back Country Trail in
> Vogel State Park on Blood Mountain's north side, using the Clarke Jungle
> Hammock, closed/open celled egg carton sleeping pad, and a 35 degree
> sleeping bag, while wearing light weight long johns. Slept warm and toasty,
> even in the wind. I had some condensation inside the hammock in the
> morning, though, which I didn't like to see, but the condensation caused
> absolutely no problem and dried away rather quickly.
> > This would also give me flexibility to camp where there weren't
> > appropriately spaced trees.
> I've modified all my hammocks with webbing. Marine nylon rope seems a
> little tough on trees to me. The webbing, lying flat against the bark,
> doesn't leave a mark, and gives you substantially more flexibility. I've
> got a small 'beener tied to the end of each 12 ft. length. I find it best
> to wrap the webbing around the tree once and bring the 'beener back to clip
> on the ring. (For smaller trunks, you can just wrap it around as many times
> as is necessary before clipping it off on the ring or the webbing.) But if
> the trees don't cooperate (the tree trunk is too big, or the trees are too
> far apart) you can simply clip it on the webbing, creating a "slip" knot
> that stays tight around the tree, or simply bring the beener back to the
> ring and clip it off without wrapping it around the tree. The one inch
> webbing provides sufficient friction against the tree that it won't slip
> while you're sleeping. The 'beeners come from Home Depot's rope section and
> are rated to more than 200 lbs and cost less than $2.00 each. They come
> with all kinds of warnings about how human's shouldn't trust them, but I've
> not had a problem with them. I think I could survive a fall from a hammock
> to the ground in most situations, but I wouldn't rely on them for rock
> climbing. The beeners save a lot of time and effort untying knots.
> I use an 8x10 poly tarp with grommets. It goes over an apex line, usually.
> I tie it as close to the ground on the windward side as possible, leaving
> the leeward side open. I don't like putting either end into the wind, but
> sometimes that can't be helped.
> Sloped ground works great. You can stand under the tarp and change on the
> lower slope, while using the higher slope on the other side of the hammock
> to cook on and keep your gear.
> Hope this helps.
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