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at-l-digest V1 #462
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at-l-digest Thursday, November 20 1997 Volume 01 : Number 462
In this issue:
Re: ATML Re: [at-l] Any thru hikers still on trail?
Re: [at-l] live mortar,dead mortem
[at-l] can anyone help me?
[at-l] RE: Brinks Rd Bear...
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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:06:21 -0500 (EST)
From: TOKTAADN@aol.com
Subject: Re: ATML Re: [at-l] Any thru hikers still on trail?
In a message dated 97-11-19 05:45:07 EST, IRAMFINE@aol.com writes:
<< Here is an offer to "Uptown" and "Chopper": In the spitit of true
romance,
if both of them contact me, I will give them a free weekend or two night
stay
at my hotel for the sole purpose of being able to hike the Appalachian Trail
together, provided they make advance reservations, and based on availability
of units. I also promise never to divulge what the sleeping arrangements
might be to any other people. >>
Hey, Ira
Why not just keep a stable of AT groupies there and watch your income grow?
;^)
Solar Bear
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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:16:21 -0500 (EST)
From: Will Strickland <gt0556d@prism.gatech.edu>
Subject: Re: [at-l] live mortar,dead mortem
> Felix wrote:
>
> I've divided this, multiplied by pi, added 2,160, attached logarithmic
> values, sines and cosines... I can't figure out how I could possibly be
> offended by this.
Felix! You forgot to convert to metric units, and you left off the
coefficient of magnetic flux.
> BUT, I was almost offended by the way Will Strickland
> was badmouthing my boy, Billy Ray Bob. He ain't 8 or 9. He's 12.
Well, I guess all those cigartettes must be stuntin' the little tykes
growth.
>And he's
> one of the best four-wheeler ridin, whiskey drinkin teens I've ever seen.
> And, when he gets out of the third grade, he's gonna start workin' on his
> grammer.
Grammer?! Put him to work on the tractor instead, the back forty could use
a good tillin'
>Remind me to tell you what he said on his last birthday. God
> love 'em.
>
Wait, is that the one about the two dogs, uhhh....some rope and uhhh....
a can of BEANS!!!!!! I may have heard that one.
I guess it's gittin' 'bout time to start fixin up the '76 Camaro for him..
> Pomegranites, get yer Pomegranites.
I'll take two, and hey, where'd you stash the rutabegas?
..Will S. out!
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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 17:51:57 -0500 (EST)
From: CHoover241@aol.com
Subject: [at-l] can anyone help me?
Hey all,
I sent in a long post the other day concerning the info about Dolly
Sods and never saw it, but I did get 2 of Felixes posts. I seem to not be
getting all the stuff and what I am getting is in duplicate. Any
suggestions?
Cheryl
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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 97 18:54:00 PST
From: "Nyce, Greg" <GNYCE@wcupa.edu>
Subject: [at-l] RE: Brinks Rd Bear...
Recently --Rhymin' Worm related this...
>Bears were a problem in that section this summer. I didn't have any trouble
>myself, though I saw several, but one thru-hiker, Mr. Clean, was chased by
>a bear at Brink Road Shelter. I got this firsthand from him. Evidently he
>was eating lunch in the shelter and a bear showed up. He put away his food
>and left the shelter. The bear went in, then came out and started following
>him. He tried to scare it off, making noise and jumping up and down, but it
>was not deterred, so he began walking down a blue blaze trail in the
>direction of a road. The bear followed. He began walking faster. The bear
>followed faster. He broke into a run when he got within sight of some
>houses, and the bear broke into a run too. He ended up vaulting over a
>fence into someone's yard--the woman saw the bear and let him inside.
This is *SOME* story - not to "monday-morning quarterback" but was this the
best way to handle this type of situation ??? It obviously worked this
time but... alarm bells had to be going off at the "he quickened his pace
and the bear did as well" since this immediately creates a "hunter and prey"
scenario - i've always heard that bears (at least most) will not "take the
pack off your back" and i always cring (sp? - shudder) when i hear of people
throwing rocks at bears especially after the tragic incident out in
California where some people got "carried away" (and they should have been
carried away and *PUT away* after doing what they did too).
Is it always necessary to attempt to "scare the bear off" ? - is a simple
"put the food away, shoulder your pack and stand your ground while making
noise" or even a "just ignore the bear" approach naively idealistic? i've
encountered bears including surprising a mother with 2 cubs up in NJ and
never felt threatened but i wasn't eating or cooking at a shelter either.
What about a quick food dropoff into the bear box ? i'm thinking that if
the bear actually came right up to him, that the bear would be more
interested (gulp, and know this is awful for both bears and hikers long
term) in the pack than the hiker.
Since there really is no "fight"" aside from a possible initial bluff,
flight becomes a very understandable response but in the "big picture"
flight might also be the most dangerous thing to do as well ?
i remember hiking near Hawksbill in SNP/VA and seeing "Warning - Aggressive
Bears" signs on the AT - i was actually hoping to see and did see 1 *very
well behaved bear* but the "hoping" part developed some mixed feelings after
passing the signs and talking with some hikers/Rangers about their bear
encounters. Actually 1 Ranger told me that the signs worked because they
limited the number of backcountry campers in the area and just that had a
dampening affect on the bear's bad "people habits". There was also a story
about some day hikers being followed (harrassed, if following is
harrassment) by a bear for something like 20 minutes and, i believe, a tent
being damaged.
Bears - a true "wonder of nature"
Happy Trails,
Running Bear - Downingtown, PA - gnyce@wcupa.edu
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