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Re: [at-l] Ground sheet?
- Subject: Re: [at-l] Ground sheet?
- From: Jim Mayer <email@example.com>
- Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 09:48:57 PDT
At 09:44 AM 8/6/97 PDT, BChan@vines.gems.gov.bc.ca wrote:
>To you ultra-liters who carry tarps and bivy's or just tarps and no tents,
>do you also carry a ground sheet? Isn't a tarp, ground sheet, and bivy
>almost as much weight as a tent?
Depends.... I carry a fairly heavy bivy and a small tarp, no ground sheet.
The bivy weighs 2 lbs 6 oz, and the tarp (6x8), rope, and stakes weigh
around a pound. Conservatively, my total shelter "weight bill" is 3.5 lbs,
which is a bit lighter than most tents (except for the Stephenson models).
The bivy is a tall/winter version of the Integral Designs Unishelter. It
has one hoop across the head area and a large, noseeum mesh lined top
On the other hand, I really didn't buy the bivy to go "ultralight". Here
are some other issues that were more important to me:
- quick setup/take down. I HATED futzing with a wet tent.
- On a dry day, I just skip the tarp. On a wet day, the tarp goes up first
and makes it easy to set up the bivy at the cost of extra setup time.
- I can use the tarp during the day for an extended break.
- I'm 6'2" tall. Most small light tents (I gather that Stephensons are
another exception here) are too short.
The big reason for bringing the tarp is ventilation. The
waterproof/breathable fabrics the bivy is made from seem to work relatively
well. Whether that is because they are transporting moisture, or because
the fuzzy inside disperses condensation I can't tell. Nevertheless,
NOTHING beats ventilation, and with the tarp up I can leave the big door
wide open even in the rain. If it gets colder, I zip up and get an extra 5
or 10 degrees of warmth.
One caveat, I haven't had the bivy out on more than short trips yet. I've
found it very comfortable so far, but I cannot say how I would feel after 6
months on the AT! (I'd like to be able to though... :-))
-- Jim Mayer
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