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[at-l] My HUGE pack...long



Hiyalll....
Ok you guys......I've had about enough!!!!!!!!!
I've taken all the back channel teasing I intend to...<<<VVVBG>>>
I've already admitted to hiking with dogs and ropes
and beans, but these rumors about what's in my
HUGE pack are getting out of hand.

My pack may look HUGE, but it's not that heavy.  
The pack is an exframe, MCKinley around 3800 cu. if I remember.  
So alot of my stuff stays outside.......................4lb10oz

Below the Pack is my bag, protected by my 3/4 ultralite 
Thermarest, which is protected by the skinniest (< 1/2 in) 
lightest, closed cell, full length pad I could find, 
protected by a stuff sack.  
Bag 2lb10 oz...Thermarest 14oz...c.c.pad 4oz......... 3lb 12oz.         

Since the bag is down and not really cheap-gear-cheap-gear, I intend
to make it last as long as possible, so I don't compress it.  I don't
even squeeze it much. Sooooo, the sleeping package is a rather large
tube...about 12 in across.  Pretty bulky, but it's super comfy to 
lean against or sit on at lunch.  And it allows the pack to sit up
by itself!.  Usually<<<G>>>

On the top bar, I have my dog's sleep pad, 
rolled, into which I stuff my hooded jacket 
when not in use........................................ 1lb 11oz
My jacket_is_heavy cause it has a hood and is super big
to wear over anything...even my down jacket.  But I love it.
I've left instuctions that I be buried in it!!!!!!!!
Malden mills makes great fleece.

I keep the top bar extended to the max which also contributes
to the HUGE appearance.  This alows for easy access to the bottle 
holster, lets me look up unhindered plus lets me do trail 
maintenance on the go! You know all those pesky dead low branches...
I just close my eyes, grit my teeth and plow through!!<<G>>> 
I must admit, that since I'm maybe 5'6'in my boots, that top bar 
sticking way up there probably does look silly, but it works for me.  

Since I've gone this far, I might as well dump the whole pack out for 
you all to see...
Anyone bored with gear lists, skip to the bottom for the punch line.

Bottom compartement:
	ZZip stove, pot with pan/lid and extra 
	aluminum lid ....................................2lb. 1oz
	Doublewall insulated plastic 16oz mug loaded with 	  
	six packs of instant coffee and sugar ............... 6oz
	Empty plastic Kraft Parmesan cheese container full        
	of grits............................................. 8oz 
	Plastic box containing tea, spices, maple syrup, 
	spoon and fork, (I haven't the patience required 
	to eat ramen with a spoon.  Twirling those 
	noodles is fun!)  condiments, P-38 or two and 
	a 3 in sq of camp towel...........................1lb.8oz

	One gallon plastic food jar  (made of milk jug stuff) 
	containing					       
	4pks ramen, 2c.instant rice
	mini can of tuna, can of smoked oysters, 
	two packs cup o soup,  can of chicken. 
	(I thought I still had some dried chicken  
	in the freezer but at the last minute
	..ooops...had to go with the can.)
	Pack of dehyd potates and mushrooms
	Packet of dried milk........................... 3lbs 1oz

Top compartement
	3 super nifty 4X10 stuff sacks made of very
	fine mesh (looks like pantyhose material but
	much tougher) with my clothes.  BTW...I used to 
	use the	legs from panty hose until I found these.
	1.  Nylon wind pants and 
	    very lightly coated anorak..................1lb 1oz
	2.  Bed socks, t-shirt and panties,  
	    lt.poly tops andbottoms..................... 1lb 5oz
	3.  2 bras,3 panties, skirt and T-shirt, socks
	    +2 gallon ziplock bag (forget it Tuck..I'm an 
	    undie swapper..that's like a sock swapper
	    only it involves brief partial nudity.  
	    And I switched to stretch lace panties since 
	    they are very light!).........................1lb 5oz
	Cut down plastic soda bottle (pee cup) which 
	    protects my petzl micro and several sheets of 
	    wax paper. .......................................7oz
	1 litre Platy bag full ...........................2lb 2oz
	2 litre Platy bag empty for untreated water.......... 2oz
	Tent poles, ground sheet and fly..................3lb 4oz
	Tennis ball container full of corn pops...............4oz
	Crystal light container full of Ritz,..... .......... 4oz
	Another full of grapes................................6oz
	Plastic box (refrigerator<G>) with 5oz. beef stick, 
	4oz of cheese 	6oz. of cream.....................1lb.1oz
	
Note...if you, like Sandy are wondering about all these containers,
this is the main 'short mile' habit I need to deal with. The total
weight of all my containers is 7oz.  Doing without them, for me, 
would be like removing all the cupboards from my kitchen and just
dumping everthing in one big box.  The convenience/protection
they provide are _very_ hard for me to give up.

Upper left pocket-
	1 litre soda bottle of water. 1/2 l.milk........ 3lb0oz
	Paper towels ( I use these instead of TP because
	I can first use them to dry my dishes then 
	recycle them for TP duty. Plus they seem to work 
	better 	when it's raining...........................2oz
Upper right pocket
	 1 litre. soda bottle of water in holster.......2lb 2oz
Lower left pocket
	Very small box of wetones,......................... 3oz
	plastic bag with  foot powder, campsoap,
	mole sin, and tiny scissors,    
	sunscreen and dope................................. 6oz
	Dry socks.......................................... 2oz

Lower right pocket
	Scout water filter, toothbrush for cleaning,		       
	Coffee filters for pre-screening, water bag
	A 6 in square of camptowel.,.....................1lb4oz
	Another Kraft cheese container with my gorp.........6oz
	(This is my best original idea!   I always 
	hated sticking 	my grubby hands into the gorp.  
	These containers have a 'thumb flip' lid 
	which allows easy ' mouth pour'.
	Kind of a gorp 'squeeze bottle')

Back pocket
	First aid kit in heavy duty plastic bag. 
	Fairly complete.....................................7oz
	Ace-type bangage................................... 2oz
	Another bag with anti itch creme, 1 oz.bottle 
	of lotion to massage my legs when they get 
	'jumpy' and keep me from sleeping
	reused 1/2 oz eye drop bottle of face wash,
	1/4 of a wash cloth, tooth paste, a few Q-tips, 
	an emory board and hair pins........................7oz
	Repair kit,(the usual stuff) with 2 extra 
	batteries, signal mirror............................6oz

Front pocket
	This is where I stuff odd stuff and luxuries.
	Permament residents......
	String and knot 'shopping bag'..................... 1oz
	Plastic bag which holds other plastic bags..........1oz
	More paper towels...................................2oz	
	Flashlight with diffuser............................4oz
	Gloves and hat......................................5oz
	Last weekend I tested a tiny AM FM radio............3oz
	Also for testing 2oz of SkinSoSoft..................2oz

	Usual residents of front pocket which stayed home this trip
	Sketch pad w/pencils or paint........................8oz
	Or paperback........................................ ?
	Or embroidery hoop and thread........................3oz
	monocular........................................... 7oz
I tuck my trowel into the bungee cords that holds
	 my bed roll.........................................2oz 
Also I tuck a heavy duty space blanket there too. 
	This is my warm weather butt pad, rainy lunch tarp, 
	and tent awning......................................10oz
My Aquamocs are clipped to the ice ax loop...................12oz	
		    
A bum cup and dog's water bowl hang from zipper pulls.........2oz
As does a thermometer and magnifying glass and whistle........2oz
Also outside-A very large, yet very light stuff sack 
	(comes in handy for hauling out other's garbage)
	containing.....	
	a super light pair of clippers, 
	a metal bandaid box (ash can) wrapped with 
	duct tape, some tinder, a windscreen and some 
	parachute cord,the kitchen table, (a bakery-style 
	disposable cake plate) ..............................12oz
The dog's long rope which I forgot last trip............. ....5oz
 
If I think I'll be camping somewhere that has no 
	existing fire ring, I also carry a firepan...........10oz

You may have noticed there is no pack cover.  I am experimenting
	with using my ground sheet, secured by ironing board straps
	(tiny little suspender thingees)

I also wear a belly bag which contains 
	An emergency disposable poncho, and mylar blanket.
	Water pills and 2-1Qt ziplocks
	Lighter and parachute cord
	.5ml drop cloth
	1/2 oz eye wash bottle of tooth polish and brush
	Papertowel pieces in little plastic bags..for peeing
	Chap stick
	12% pepper type spray, Buck Lite knife,
	Dog straps, Squeeze light, Bandana

The dog carried her own gear plus the tent body until she got
sick.  Then I took her weight down from 10lbs to 5lbs.
I was wearing stretch leggings and a 'man shirt' plus undees.

After awhile, I noticed the look of total concern on Sandy's face 
when I hoist my pack.  If I looked as if I was struggling, it's
because I often forget to loosen my shoulder straps plus the 
fact that I'm top heavy by nature, also have to be careful of
my back, (I cracked a couple vertebrae awhile back) then add the 
HUGE pack and I guess I kinda teeter as I put it on 
from time to time.

But it only looks HUGE..it's not that heavy..I weighed this at my
vet's office........41lb 10oz.  Any discrepency is due to my cheap
scale plus the bugee cording (no hooks...just knots).
Take away the food and water, almost 14lbs and it's just under 28lbs
of equipment.   And for anything more than an easy weekend cruise, 
I could cut more. At least 2 lbs.  For the AT, re long miles, 4lbs
must be cut.

Way way too much food and 6 lbs. of water was the heavy stuff.

So there is absolutly no truth in the rumor that my pack has to be
huge because I'm smuggling parapackers or because I need to leave 
space for the monkey!
He rides on the dog....			Kahley
Everybody has something to hide 'cept for me an' my monkey......
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