[at-l] OT - Or Maybe NOt

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We can't let those nasty G.O.People take Al Gore's invention away from us!
(How could we support all that ONLINE corporate greed, then?!)
-"Camo"

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Jim and/or Ginny Owen" <spiriteagle99@hotmail.com> 

> THE Liteshoe wrote: 
> 
> >The End of the Internet? 
> 
> Hmmm - couple things here - 
> First - look at the source. The Nation is not known for either it's 
> accuracy or it's neutrality. 
> 
> Second - look at the conclusion of the article - 
> 
> >Without such a public outcry to rein in the GOP's corporate-driven agenda, 
> >it is likely that even >many of the Democrats who rallied against further 
> >consolidation will be "tamed" by the well-funded lobbying campaigns of the 
> >powerful phone and cable industry. 
> 
> Then look at how many of those corporations DON'T fit the "GOP's 
> corporate-driven agenda" because they actually support the Democratic party. 
> But he doesn't tell you that, does he? 
> 
> Third - there are at least 8 major factual errors in that piece. I work for 
> a company that's deeply involved in what's called "frequency allocation 
> management". And some of the basic premises of the article are pure BS. 
> Some of what he talks about is pure fantasy - some of it may be real, but is 
> deeply buried under layers of security and highly unlikely to ever see the 
> light of day in a corporate environment. 
> 
> Fourth - the kind of "corporate control" that's suggested in that article 
> would literally "kill the Golden Goose". The internet is a "Golden Goose" 
> for the communication companies - it pays well with very little investment. 
> The kind of corporate control suggested in that article might kill the 
> Internet - but it would also kill the massive revenues that the Internet 
> generates. That would amount to corporate stupidity. As that famous 
> expression goes - BS. 
> 
> Fifth - he advances "government control" as the only way to "save" the 
> Internet. After 42 years of working with, for - and sometimes against - the 
> government, I'll tell you at any volume level it takes that "government 
> control" is the fastest way I can think of the really screw anything up. 
> The examples are legion - and I'll provide them on request. 
> 
> Bottom line - 
> 
> 1. it's a hit-piece against the GOP using ideas that are neither supported 
> nor advocated by the GOP - or anyone else that has any serious involvement 
> or interest. 
> 
> 2. it's economic nonsense. 
> 
> 3. it's an emotional, over-the-top, inflammatory piece that has no relation 
> to reality. Similar to the present flap by the Islamists over the Danish 
> cartoons - which were published in September and which the imams have been 
> whipping up Islamic rage about for the last several months. If it takes 4 
> months to generate murderous rage, then the cause is false. Similarly, if it 
> takes lies, misdirection and misinformation to generate righteous 
> indignation about corporations or the GOP - or anything else - then the 
> cause is false. 
> 
> Be careful what you read - or at least what you believe. 
> 
> Walk softly, 
> Jim 
> 
> http://www.spiriteaglehome.com/ From fosterp599 at bellsouth.net  Sun Feb  5 07:04:46 2006
From: fosterp599 at bellsouth.net (fosterp599@bellsouth.net)
Date: Sun Feb  5 07:13:06 2006
Subject: [at-l] OT - Or Maybe NOt
References: <BAY112-F27B23A4AFE982E6E4EF521A00F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000601c62a54$bd2e37a0$6001a8c0@D8X0SQ61>

Great analyses.

Foster Parsons
First Pilgrim
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim and/or Ginny Owen" <spiriteagle99@hotmail.com>
To: <at-l@backcountry.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 9:20 PM
Subject: [at-l] OT - Or Maybe NOt


> THE Liteshoe wrote:
>
>>The End of the Internet?
>
> Hmmm - couple things here -
> First - look at the source.  The Nation is not known for either it's 
> accuracy or it's neutrality.
>
> Second - look at the conclusion of the article -
>
>>Without such a public outcry to rein in the GOP's corporate-driven agenda, 
>>it is likely that even >many of the Democrats who rallied against further 
>>consolidation will be "tamed" by the well-funded lobbying campaigns of the 
>>powerful phone and cable industry.
>
> Then look at how many of those corporations DON'T fit the "GOP's 
> corporate-driven agenda" because they actually support the Democratic 
> party. But he doesn't tell you that, does he?
>
> Third - there are at least 8 major factual errors in that piece.  I work 
> for a company that's deeply involved in what's called "frequency 
> allocation management".  And some of the basic premises of the article are 
> pure BS.  Some of what he talks about is pure fantasy - some of it may be 
> real, but is deeply buried under layers of security and highly unlikely to 
> ever see the light of day in a corporate environment.
>
> Fourth - the kind of "corporate control" that's suggested in that article 
> would literally "kill the Golden Goose".  The internet is a "Golden Goose" 
> for the communication companies - it pays well with very little 
> investment.  The kind of corporate control suggested in that article might 
> kill the Internet - but it would also kill the massive revenues that the 
> Internet generates.  That would amount to corporate stupidity.  As that 
> famous expression goes - BS.
>
> Fifth - he advances "government control" as the only way to "save" the 
> Internet.  After 42 years of working with, for - and sometimes against - 
> the government, I'll tell you at any volume level it takes that 
> "government control" is the fastest way I can think of the really screw 
> anything up.  The examples are legion - and I'll provide them on request.
>
> Bottom line -
>
> 1. it's a hit-piece against the GOP using ideas that are neither supported 
> nor advocated by the GOP - or anyone else that has any serious involvement 
> or interest.
>
> 2. it's economic nonsense.
>
> 3. it's an emotional, over-the-top, inflammatory piece that has no 
> relation to reality.  Similar to the present flap by the Islamists over 
> the Danish cartoons - which were published in September and which the 
> imams have been whipping up Islamic rage about for the last several 
> months.  If it takes 4 months to generate murderous rage, then the cause 
> is false. Similarly, if it takes lies, misdirection  and misinformation to 
> generate righteous indignation about corporations or the GOP - or anything 
> else - then the cause is false.
>
> Be careful what you read - or at least what you believe.
>
> Walk softly,
> Jim
>
> http://www.spiriteaglehome.com/
>
>
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