[at-l] Re: SORUCK Suggestions

[gadog430 at charter.net (Gadog430)]

The Saturday lunch is staying if I have any say. I feel strongly about this.
The Sunday lunch of leftovers probably can be saved if there are any.
Dawg



----- Original Message -----
From: "George (Tin Man) Andrews" <tinman@antigravitygear.com>
To: <Slyatpct@aol.com>; <at-l@backcountry.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [at-l] Re: SORUCK Suggestions


> > I welcome all your suggestions and will continue to try and improve
> > things,
> > just don't expect drastic changes.  As the saying goes, "if it ain't
> > broke..."
>
>
> The reason for compiling the suggestions now instead of in October or
> November is to get it down on e-paper while all is still fresh to let the
> suggestions simmer all summer.   It's a summer simmer thing.
>
> It certainly ain't broke and drastic changes are not needed.  Based on
> comments and suggestions I received directly and personal observations
here
> are my 2 cents meant only to be constructive.
>
> First Sly did a great job coordinating.  That is one job that is ALWAYS
more
> work than it seems to the participants when done right and Sly, my man,
you
> made it seem effortless.  The mark of a very fine job indeed.  Unless
> someone gets really stupid and offers to let Sly off the hook as Grand
> PooBah, it appears that 2007 SoRuck will be even better than 2006.
>
> I'll comment on 2 subjects.  Meals and Vendors.  I feel qualified to
comment
> on meals because I eat and vendors because I are one.
>
> Meals:  Everyone praised the quality and massive quantities of the food.
It
> all comes down to Time, Money and Help.  Those three issues should be fine
> tuned to make sure no one person or group has all the expense and work.
>
> The Felix approach:  We are a fairly independant group of ...whatever and
> can bring a bag lunchs for Friday night
> The Miss Janet suggestion:  Skip Saturday and Sunday organized lunches and
> let everone fend for themselves.
>
> I concur.
>
> My opinion is the ruck was at the upper limit of NOC capacity for as many
> organized meals as we had.  I suggest we have no more than 3 planned
meals.
> For the sake of tradition  #1 Saturday morning breakfast (Please OB,
PLEASE
> don't stop with the blueberry pancakes), #2 Saturday evening Meatloaf In
> Paradise aka Dawg Food and/or Italian Coverd Dish, and #3 Miss Janet's
> Sunday morning breakfast.  Friday night could be a coverd dish heavy
> horse-doovers and bring a plate of snacks event that would require no
> cooking and no clean-up.  I'm just sayin.
>
> It is not right for those who cook to clean up.  This years' Sunday b'fast
> could not be started until the kitchen was cleaned up from Saturday
night's
> dinner.  Well, ok we also had to wait for Miss Janet to wake up too but
the
> point is there needs to be an organized fair distribution of chores.  It
> bayers repeating that it's not right for those who cook to clean up.
>
> One suggestion might be to have a chore box with cleanup/cooking tasks to
> draw from.  So,  there you are in line at the dining hall and you pull a
> chore out of the box and post it to the main list before you can eat.
Then
> you know when and where you will be needed and there won't be too many
> people helping for one meal and too few for another.
>
> How to pay for it all?  Some could afford to give money but not food or
> time.  Some could afford to give time in prep but not money or food.  some
> ...well, you get the picture.  Since the SoRuck appears to be a permanant
> thang, what traditions if any should be established for handling the
> expense?  Should Orange Bug be expected to provide pancakes on his own
> forever?  Miss Janet?  Ga Dawg?  How about a donation box for each meal or
a
> flat charge for the event?  Coward that I am I don't have the answers,
just
> the questions.  Are these even important questions?
>
> It is so simple for 50 people but not so for 120 plus.  What if next year
is
> 150 ppl?
>
> Vendors/Presentations/Events:
> There were 6 or 7 vendors with serious displays at 2005 and only 3 at
2006.
> Vendors are not a problem with NOC as they host groups all the time.
> Commercial presentations are always part of any convention or gathering.
It
> was good to see Six Moon Designs there and the new gear he had.  But
> disappointing to see that there were the only three there with major
> offerings.  The provision for vendors/displays and events needs
improvement.
> When I go to airshows and other like-events, it is entirely to see the
> vendors for the good deals on equipment and see what is new in the
industry
> and discuss needs with factory reps.  There are people who go to Trail
Days
> for same reasons only.  Cabin D common area could not have held more than
> the 2 of us and there was not enough room to put out even 1/3 of the stuff
I
> brought.  My give away/close-out/free box was virtually untouched because
it
> couldn't be seen and eArThworm's table was in the unlit foyer by the door.
> I would suggest that we have Klamath Hall as the auction/vendor/event
area.
> How about charging vendors $20 each for a table in Klamath hall with the
> proceeds to go to the meals or the AT museum?   I have a couple of 12 x 20
> tent shelters that could be put up for others to use but don't know where
> they could go.   I will talk it over with the events director at NOC and
see
> what she would suggest.
>
> Another possibility might be to have the hall and dining area set up for
> vendors and presentations between the hours of 9 and 5.  Set it up and
then
> take it down.  It would be a real plus IMHO to have reps from Gregory,
MSR,
> Hennessey, Vasque, Enertia Trail Foods, Six Moon, Brasslight, new startup
> mom and pops etc.  But that's just me talking.  I was there for the
> fellowship and only spent about 4 hours answering questions about gear and
> demo-ing stoves and cooking kits.  I could just as easily not brought
> anything to show and still had a mahvolous time.
>
> If only Hummingbird and Dutch Treat had shown up.
>
> Only 50.5 weeks til SoRuck '07!  Woohoo!!!  Sly, how can I help?
> Tin Man
>
>
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