Sloetoe <sloetoe@yahoo.com> wrote: :: WOW. :: *There's* "goal-oriented" for ya. :: :: I think that ties in well to the "what it takes" thread earlier. He's got something that no one else I've EVER met has. Well, at least he has it in a larger dose, to say the least. Hey Tooooey! How about an ultra a day for a few months?! PackingForTheHikeAtNightWalker