[at-l] (OT) Solar Advances

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It was that special "smokeless" wood...no airborne particulates here; just move along, nothing to see.
-"Camo"

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 non polluting? What did it do, dissolve the wood? 
 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob C" 
> To: ; 
> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:52 PM 
> Subject: Re: [at-l] (OT) Solar Advances 
> 
> 
> I don't disagree with RnR. I heated my house for nearly 20 years with nothing 
> but wood, burned 
> in a sophisticated, non polluting wood boiler. Unfortunately, the company that 
> made them went 
> out of business and my boiler required a major rebuilding. 
> 
> The combination of money and age, and health, and a wife who's not into 
> carrying cord wood, 
> convinced me to switch back to oil, except for an antique wood-burning kitchen 
> range. We 
> continue to use less fuel oil than anyone with a house the size of ours. The guy 
> who installed 
> the oil boiler insisted it would be too small for a house our size. The oil 
> dealer put us on 
> automatic delivery, but abandoned the idea after spending a winter delivering 
> oil in 50 gallon 
> lots, when his formulas said I should be nearing empty. 
> 
> IN retrospect, given present energy prices, I wish I had stuck with the wood 
> boiler. 
> 
> Weary 
> 
> > ------------Original Message------------ 
> > From: RoksnRoots@aol.com 
> > To: AT-L@Backcountry.net 
> > Date: Sat, Dec-3-2005 3:48 PM 
> > Subject: Re: [at-l] (OT) Solar Advances 
> > 
> > In a message dated 12/3/2005 11:19:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
> > ellen@clinic.net writes: 
> > * 
> > * 
> > * 
> > For instance, I can put a solar hot water system on my roof for about 
> > $7,000. 
> > If I mortgage my house at 6% to pay for the installation, the interest 
> > alone 
> > comes to $420 a year, without ever paying off the principal. 
> > * 
> > * 
> > * 
> > 
> > 
> > From reading this, I'm sure the best per-cost basis of this 
> > technology is installing solar/energy conservation devices in new 
> > construction. New 
> > construction, of course, is sprawl - so the best conservation based 
> > improvement 
> > would have to be in already-built houses. The cheapest alternative is 
> > always 
> > to do as little as possible and make up the difference with 
> > conventional fuel 
> > sources. That is sort of the problem coming around full circle. 
> > 
> > Being a through-hiker who doesn't mind roughing it, I could 
> > easily 
> > survive in a "Rusty's"-type house with minimal technology. Local code 
> > probably 
> > prevents this in most places. As a matter of fact, I would enjoy living 
> > that 
> > way simply for the reason of beating the energy-spiral system. - 
> > Especially 
> > during a price-jacking energy crunch crisis. People who installed a 
> > total 
> > water-collection, solar PV, and solar water heating system in their 
> > alternative 
> > residence would be laughing all the way to self-sufficient cost savings 
> > during a 
> > serious crisis. Those in cold winter climes would probably need to 
> > spend for a 
> > wood burning water heating system as well. 
> > 
> > Pipe dream? Not really. If you look at what people are willing to 
> > spend 
> > on the new skyrocketing market prices for homes, this technology would 
> > easily 
> > fit within the long term price margins for housing. The solar site said 
> > the 
> > average increase was 2% on the total cost of a new home and sold 
> > instantly (for 
> > solar shingles). 
> > 
> > I'm sure the problem of too many windows could be mitigated with 
> > a 
> > shade system designed to shade on high sun days and insulate at night. 
> > New double 
> > windows with a vacuum in between the panes could solve condensation and 
> > 
> > heat-loss - at a price however. 
> > 
> > On another site a man who built an alternative 
> > half-subterranian 
> > home in Minnesota shared his website. He said the main reason he built 
> > this way 
> > was exactly because he had little money: 
> > 
> > http://www.potkettleblack.com/natbild/lilacfarm.html 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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From: apptrail2174 at yahoo.com (at 2174)
Date: Mon Dec  5 00:43:27 2005
Subject: [at-l] Developing mental toughness for LD hiking
Message-ID: <20051205063749.17423.qmail@web33513.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello, all- I'm a wanna-be LD hiker, and at-l reader.
I am interested in learning about developing the
psychological traits that can increase long distance
hiking success.

I'm not at all interested in religous philosophies, or
methods/philosophies that are "made from whole cloth",
that is, somebody dreamt it up and there's no
substantial foundation to it other than one person's
belief.

Any suggestions for me? Thanks!

James W. Jones


		
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