i muttered: >I averaged 11 miles/day (long term, including zero >days) with town stops every five days or so. I lost >5 lbs in 2 months. Not much, really. d'oh. need to check the thread title next time <grin> rafe -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.14/79 - Release Date: 8/22/2005