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[at-l] On Global Warming



Gee, Bill, you're making quite a leap there. "Flat Earthers?"

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "william fitzpatrick" <jestbill@yahoo.com>
To: <AT-L@backcountry.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [at-l] On Global Warming


> "Show me the data."???
> And what would you do with it if I did?  Are you in a position to make a
> difference?
>
> "I just asked some questions..."
> Same old, same old:  every "flat earth" enthusiast, every "anti-evolution"
> monomaniac, every "unlimited growth" advocate frames his propaganda the
same
> way.
>
> "I'm just a simple so-and-so who's never thought about any of this much
but
> I've heard that some people believe 'X.'  Can anyone prove to me beyond a
> shadow of doubt that 'X' is true?  I'll only accept personal, handwritten
> submissions and be quick about it."
>
> Truth is, as I've said, it just doesn't matter what the "natural" cycles
are
> nor what has caused them.  "The times, they are a changing" and we need to
try
> to figure out just how they are changing and what to do about it. Aeons
have
> nothing to do with it.
>
>
>
> BTW here's a contribution to the cell phone debate:
> http://www.onion.com/news/index.php?issue=4132&n=2
>
> --------------------------
> --- Martin Fors <revmrf@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > I knew as soon as I made my statement/query on this type thread that I'd
be
> > accused of siding with oil companies, etc. etc.  However, I just asked
some
> > questions and time framed them with the parameters of eons or millennia,
> > that is thousands or millions of years.  The data that I'm aware of is
> > supported within the framework of merely hundreds of years.  So my
question
> > remains:  Are we in a warming cycle of millennia or eons?  I ask this
with
> > honesty, not taking any side.
> >
> >
> >
> > This was posed to me by my cousin who is a Canadian patent attorney, a
> > partner in his corporation, and has a PHD in geology.  It wasn't a
> > rhetorical question as he didn't have an answer, but gave a
consideration of
> > possibilities.  So I ask, show me the data.  I'm convinced by all kinds
of
> > data that we are warming and have some responsibilities for it.  But,
how
> > much is our [humanities] fault?
> >
> >
> >
> >  rusty
> >
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