[at-l] Lebanon man falls off slope near trail

[ellen at clinic.net (ellen)]

>"...And, ?what's ?the ?basis ?for ?banning ?cellphones ?in the woods? Just because they can be annoying? Great reason for more laws and rules."

No. Just because some of us go to the woods and mountains to experience wildness and instant communication with the outside world diminishes wildness.

But I was thinking in this particular thread about Baxter Park rules prohibiting the use of cell phones. In Baxter's case the rule is in line with Gov. Baxter's desire to create a place where the "trappings of civilization" are absent. Since he bought and paid for the 200,000 acre park and gave it to the public, along with enough money to operate the park indefinitely, I think his desires should be honored, don't you? 

Weary

...... > If ?we prohibit the use of cellphones in the wilderness, the species -
> the ?entire human race - might be better off, even prosper?! There's a
> connection ?between ?cellphone ?use in the woods and the health of the
> human ?race?! ?That ?sounds ?a little arrogant when you read it on the
> screen. You forgot the smiley, right?
> 
> And, ?what's ?the ?basis ?for ?banning ?cellphones ?in the woods? Just
> because they can be annoying? Great reason for more laws and rules.
> 
> ee> However, ?having ?an ?open ?mind, ?I would welcome evidence to the
> ee> contrary.
> 
> Evidence of what, exactly?
> 
> The ?discussion ?of ?cellphones ?in ?the woods has taken on hysterical
> overtones. ?The reason they annoy us (me included), is because lots of
> people nowadays are self-centered and don't employ basic manners.
> 
> Cellphones don't annoy people. ?People annoy people.
> 
> I ?carry ?a cellphone, turned off, in my pack. ?I've pulled it out and
> used it twice. ?Both times I was real glad I had it.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> at-l mailing list
> at-l@backcountry.net
> http://mailman.hack.net/mailman/listinfo/at-l
> 

> ------------Original Message------------
> From: Coyle306 <coyle306@localnet.com>
> To: at-l@backcountry.net
> Date: Sun, Jun-27-2004 10:25 AM
> Subject: [at-l] Lebanon man falls off slope near trail
> 
> ee> Humans,  however,  have  managed  to  live,  survive  and  to over
> ee> populate  this  earth  for  several  millennia without the help or
> ee> hindrance of cell phones.
> 
> So  what?  The  same  can  be said for radio, TV, computers, SUVs, and
> Petzl  Headlamps.  Want  to  ban them, too, because some inconsiderate
> people use them to annoy other people?
> 
> ee> I  think  the  species will survive, and, just perhaps, might even
> ee> prosper more than otherwise, if we prohibit the use of cell phones
> ee> in a few wild places.
> 
> If  we prohibit the use of cellphones in the wilderness, the species -
> the  entire human race - might be better off, even prosper?! There's a
> connection  between  cellphone  use in the woods and the health of the
> human  race?!  That  sounds  a little arrogant when you read it on the
> screen. You forgot the smiley, right?
> 
> And,  what's  the  basis  for  banning  cellphones  in the woods? Just
> because they can be annoying? Great reason for more laws and rules.
> 
> ee> However,  having  an  open  mind,  I would welcome evidence to the
> ee> contrary.
> 
> Evidence of what, exactly?
> 
> The  discussion  of  cellphones  in  the woods has taken on hysterical
> overtones.  The reason they annoy us (me included), is because lots of
> people nowadays are self-centered and don't employ basic manners.
> 
> Cellphones don't annoy people.  People annoy people.
> 
> I  carry  a cellphone, turned off, in my pack.  I've pulled it out and
> used it twice.  Both times I was real glad I had it.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> at-l mailing list
> at-l@backcountry.net
> http://mailman.hack.net/mailman/listinfo/at-l
>