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[at-l] Trekking poles? Nomad lite?



Quoting Jim and/or Ginny Owen <spiriteagle99@hotmail.com>:

> David Jessop wrote:
> 
> >I am considering purchasing a Nomad lite tent which would require me
> to
> >use trekking poles. I've never used poles before and don't really
> see the
> >need. However, I understand that many long distance hikers use them.
> I'm
> >wondering what your thoughts are on poles and the Nomad lite? If
> this
> >discussion has taken place already in the archives, please point me
> to
> >them. Thanks!
> 
> David -
> This "discussion" has taken place several times - with varying
> degrees of 
> opinion and rancor.  However, allow me to add a couple thoughts -
> 
> First - you didn't say whether you were buying the Nomad new or used.
>   If 
> you're buying "pre-owned", then, as Art suggested - call Kurt and he
> can 
> supply a set of shock-corded tent poles if you don't want to use
> hiking 
> poles.  If you're buying new, then ask Kurt to send you a set of 
> shock-corded tent  poles just so you'll have them if you don't want
> to carry 
> the hiking poles sometimes.  Or if you don't want to use them at all.
>   I 
> believe he can also supply a set of hiking poles if you want.
> 
> Second - the poles - should you use them?  The decision, of course,
> is yours 
> - you're young and probably don't have the knee problems that some of
> us 
> have developed.  Maybe you don't need them.  On the other hand, using
> the 
> poles (or at least one pole) will aid in NOT developing those knee
> problems. 
> I'll append a short article from one of last years PCTA newsletters
> that you 
> might find interesting.
> 
> Third - if hiking poles, what kind?  If you're gonna use a Nomad tent
> "and" 
> use hiking poles, then you'll probably want collapsible poles - like
> Lekis.  
> While you "can" use the shock-corded tent poles, they won't always
> fit right 
> - it depends on the surface you set up the tent on.  The collapsible
> hiking 
> poles are adjustable and can compensate for surface/material
> variations in 
> your tent site.  That makes them somewhat better than ski poles or
> one-piece 
> wood or aluminum poles.  The collapsible poles have additional
> advantages.  
> I used various types of one-piece poles (including aluminum, pine,
> ash and 
> bamboo) for local hiking before I started the AT, then I used ski
> poles for 
> the AT - they worked very well.  But I didn't fly to Atlanta to get
> to the 
> trail - I drove.  So I didn't run into problems with the airlines. 
> When we 
> flew to Colorado in 97, we used ski poles, put them in a large
> mailing tube 
> and sent them as checked luggage.  It worked, but it was a pain. 
> When we 
> later flew to Montana, we used Lekis and just collapsed them and
> buried them 
> in our packs.  So - why all the gyrations?  Simple - a 4 or 5 ft
> stick, 
> regardless of material or intended usage, is considered a weapon and
> will be 
> confiscated unless it's checked baggage.  And is likely to
> "disappear" if 
> not hidden in a box, tube or bag of some sort.  That's not
> speculation - I 
> ran into that long before 9/11.  I'll bet it hasn't gotten any better
> since. 
>   <G>
> 
> Fourth - regardless of the type of hiking pole you use, they do
> contribute 
> to a reduction in injury.  They've saved me from a lot more than one
> fall.  
> And when I was on the AT, I also realized that if I had reason to
> hurry 
> (like getting to a post office to pick up a mail drop), they enabled
> me to 
> hike 30% faster than normal.  I try to avoid the "hiking faster"
> stuff 
> though -  I'm not into "race hiking".
> 
> Finally - when I use the Lekis, I "do not " use the straps.  In 
> fact, on 
> the PCT they annoyed me so much that I cut them off.  I do know the 
> "prescribed" way to use hiking poles.  I also know a number of people
> who 
> have had medical problems after using the poles by that method for a
> long 
> hike - generally muscle/tendon/nerve damage in the forearm and/or
> hand.  And 
> at one time, I fell and broke a thumb because my hand got hung up in
> the 
> strap.  As a matter of fact, that used to be one of the major types
> of 
> skiing injury - broken bones due to an inability to release the strap
> in a 
> fall.
> 
> As always - YMMV.
> 
> Walk softly,
> Jim
> 
> __
> 
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> 
> Michael Hodgson, a 1995 Eco-Challenger and publisher of SNEWS, an
> on-line 
> newsletter for the outdoor industry,  was totally dubious about
> hiking 
> poles, but agreed to try them on a four-day Colorado mountain trek.
> 
> “I realized I’d never had such a feeling of power and control while
> hiking.  
> Not only that \, but at the endo of the day, my knees had never felt
> better 
> or my legs less fatigued.  Never again wil I hike without poles” he 
> reported.
> 
> Hodgson’s wife, Theresa Iknoian, co-publisher of SNEWS and an
> exercise 
> physiologist, noted that pole users showed increased muscular use
> throughout 
> the body, turning hiking into something a lot more like cross-country
> 
> skiing.”
> 
> She added “This year we’ve seen two more in-depth studies, from 
> Steadman-Hawkins Foundation in Vail and the University of
> Massachusetts.  
> These show a general reduction of 4.4 percent in impacts to the body
> when a 
> hikers foot hits the ground.  The conclusion was, if you use poles,
> you’ll 
> reduce the possibility of tendonitis, and other painful injuries to
> hips, 
> thighs, calves, knees and ankles.
> 
> You can use the same poles in winter for snowshoeing of Nordic skiing
> – just 
> add the large snow-basket to the pole; for summer, snap on the
> smaller 
> trekking basket, or no basket at all.  To make poles even more
> versatile, 
> different tips can be added to provide balance for any kind of
> surface from 
> snow or rubble to cement or even interior floors.  And one further
> point, 
> poles provide upper body exercise which is lacking in simple
> trudging.
> 
> When I stared snowshoeing, nobody used poles.  About 15 years ago,
> some of 
> us took up poles, and today, it is practically unthinkable to go
> without 
> poles.  It will happen in hiking.
> 
> Bear Klaw
> Pacific Crest Trail Communicator, April-May 2002
> 
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