[at-l] Apples and Oranges

[jbryankramer at msn.com (J Bryan Kramer)]

In my younger days I worked in one of the State Psychiatric Hospital. And in
my experience seriously mentally ill folks are usually not violent. I'm
talking about the psychotic. We had some few that were confined to a special
ward but the great majority of them were anything but.

Now maybe these guys have personality disorders but I personally think
that's just psychiatric mumbo jumbo for being a rotter as the brits say.
None of this is any excuse for their behavior. Of course I agree that the
woman was using darn bad judgment when she was relying on the societal
female immunity to the consequences of saying anything she wants to say.
Stupid words can have consequences.

Bryan

"Si vis pacem para bellum"

>
> I am sorry that you have not learned of negative reimforcements
> with more effectiveness than assualt. I am sorry that you find
> assault to be an acceptable means of treating ill people. This
> is the 21st Century, in which physical restraints are avoided
> and considered a adverse event. The endorsement of physical
> abuse of people should be associated with tyrranical regimes,
> not with hikers or people seeking charitable funding.
>
> You have helped to inform me that certain "liberal" minded
> hikers remain immature and untrustworthy. While I don't have a
> physical response to your written word, I can assure you that my
> disgust is quite visceral.
>
> OrangeBug
>
> --- "Bob C." <ellen@clinic.net> wrote:
> > I've observed that most creatures -- including most humans --
> > respond to negative stimuli.  I'm suggesting that well-placed
> > and well-timed kicks to the butt, accompanied with a bit of
> > jail time, may help reform even some who are mentally ill.
> >
> > I'll add one thought to Jim's analysis. Physical responses to
> > verbal provocations are not appropriate, regardless of the
> > gender of the provocateur, other than, perhaps, simply
> > walking away.
> >
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