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[at-l] Maine AT report
- Subject: [at-l] Maine AT report
- From: spiriteagle99 at hotmail.com (Jim and/or Ginny Owen)
- Date: Tue Jun 10 22:39:26 2003
Bob C. ellen at clinic.net wrote:
>>"...The contract was awarded to NEOC, who bid thousands more than the
>>locals.
>>$6000 is a lot of money, equivalent to the entire annual dues of over 100
>>members. --- It's time to build a footbridge over the Kennebec. Let's just
>>hope
>>the MATC isn't involved in deciding who gets the contract." argues TJ.
Hmmm - the only one I see arguing is you. TJ stated the facts as he saw
them - and you started arguing - even though, by your own admission, you
have no more facts than he does.
>Hmmm. I wonder who TJ thinks ought to be involved in deciding who gets the
>contract. He rejects the group that built and has maintained the trail for
>seven
>decades plus.
He didn't "reject the group" at all - he questioned the decision. And,
given the available facts, he had good reason to do so. If a government
contract were let with that kind of price differential you'd better believe
it would be questioned from at least six different directions. Why should
this decision NOT be questioned?
>This truly is a silly argument. TJ knows two things. The name and amount of
>the
>successful trail ferry bidder. And comments by disgruntled losers. Neither
>he
>nor I have been involved in the intense negotiations among the various
>competitors. Nor are we privy to the comments and recommendations of ATC,
>which
>nominally provides the money, nor, the National Park Service, which
>actually
>provides most of the money.
Once again - specifically what is your argument with what TJ said? Unless
you have more facts than he does, you're just blowin' smoke and wasting
bandwidth. You're right - it's a silly argument - why are you keeping it
going?
>We differ in that I have been involved with MATC for three decades, have
>watched their judgments, heard and responded to their pleas for volunteers,
>and
>have learned to trust their collective wisdom.
In other words --- "Trust me" --- or in this case - "Trust the MATC"? Hmm
- would you buy a used car from MATC? :-)
Now - since you're involved with MATC, why don't you try to get the actual
rationale for their decision before you start blowin' sunshine in my ear?
Incidentally - don't wax too poetic about MATC - you said:
>I forget the precise figures but something like 1,000 volunteers devoted
>more
>than 20,000 hours to the trail last year. Though we are among the smaller
>of
>the maintaining clubs, and among the few with long trail sections (12
>percent
>of the entire AT) without a paid staff, no group devoted more volunteers
>hours
>than did MATC.
KTA (Keystone Trails Association) operates with a lot fewer than 1,000
volunteers, maintains over 2,000 miles of trail and logged over 30,000 hours
last year. Yeah - I know - that's not on the AT. But without all those
miles of "other" trails, the AT would be nothing but a deep rut from all the
boots that would be pounding it to dust.
Walk softly,
Jim
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