[at-l] Scouting and can stoves (was Pepsi can alcohol stoves for sale)

[Charles Copeland" <charles@uswnet.com (Charles Copeland)]

Personally, I wouldn't ever require a Fieldbook - but - given that it was
JLT and not a "normal" backpacking trip, there might have been a reason for
it.  The Fieldbook is an excellent reference but very heavy.

The Scoutmaster works for the Troop Committee.  If anyone has a problem with
their Scoutmaster they should take it to their Committee Chairman so that
any problems reported would (or should) be discussed by the Committee Chair
with the Scoutmaster.

Scouting, like any other volunteer organization, is not perfect nor are the
volunteers perfect.  If you don't like the Scoutmaster and there appears to
be nothing being done about problems with a Scoutmaster, find another Troop.
If the Scoutmaster is still in the "dark ages" about things -and he won't
listen to you- then find another Troop.

Also, boys choose Troops based on a visit or two or based on going where a
friend is.  Its not until *after* the boy joins that he realizes that that
Troop is not for him.  It takes a lot of will power to switch Troops - but
its done all the time.

If you move into the Roswell/Alpharetta area - come join my Troop.  We meet
on Monday evenings at 7:30 and we camp every month of the year.  We are
backpacking on the Jacks River in the Cohutta Wilderness this weekend with
24 river crossings and a really nice waterfall!

Charles



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From: <watuwando2@cs.com>
To: <woodelf@juno.com>; <at-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [at-l] Scouting and can stoves (was Pepsi can alcohol stoves
for sale)


Is this scoutmasters attitude a matter of "old schooling"?

My son just went on a week long backpacking trip for junior leader training
and was told he had to take the Field Book with him. Last time I picked that
thing up it must have weighed 5 pounds! Not to mention other things that
were not a good idea.

It has been a concern of mine that scouting is still in the dark ages
concerning backpacking.

amy


woodelf@juno.com wrote:

>In response to post about the scout master's motives and the safety of
>can stoves.
>
>While I can't know his motives, even our accountant suspects profit and
>he knows him. The stove of choice with the troop is the Whisperlight.
>Make your own judgment as to which is more dangerous. Also his refusal
>wasn't based on personal observation of the stove, he refused to even
>look at it. For those who don't know, the original idea came from a scout
>site on the web. Our accountant was quite impressed with the stove.
>
>This troop is well trained in fire discipline and LNT (or at least do no
>harm). I have offered on more than one occasion to talk to them about
>lightweight backpacking and was told "we need all the gear we carry". I
>never said anything about not needing anything.
>
>woodelf
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