On 8 Apr 2002 at 18:31, Shane Steinkamp wrote: > I did learn that my first instinctual reaction to someone > telling me I don't understand something about wilderness is > to laugh so hard that I nearly wet my pants. Now this sounds a bit vain and presumptuous, if you're suggesting that you know all there is to know about wilderness. Or perhaps I misread you. rafe b. aka terrapin